[ih] Internet-history Digest, Vol 10, Issue 17

vinton cerf vgcerf at gmail.com
Thu Jul 9 20:04:27 PDT 2020

Hi John - those were good times - I appreciated the hints - even if we
didn't necessarily incorporate all of them into TCP, I think we may have
tripped into problems and solutions that PARC encountered and perhaps
solved in similar ways. Ironically, the 48 bit address space used at PARC
might have been enough to last through a good part of this first half of
the 21st C although it seemed excessive to me at the time. It's taking a
long time to get IPv6 propagated and supported.


On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:48 PM John Shoch via Internet-history <
internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Vint C. and Dave C.,
> Thanks for your nice mention of our networking work at PARC.
> Jack H., et al.,
> In the early internetworking days there was a reasonable amount of
> interaction between PARC and Stanford:
> --At various times, both Bob M. and I sat in on Vint's classes or meetings
> at Stanford.
> --I spent the summer of 1976 (the bicentennial) working in Washington DC,
> and got to visit Vint C. and Bob K. at ARPA, in Va.
> --PARC had a nominal ARPA contract, which allowed us to have an IMP.  The
> ARPA connections led to us participating in the TCP meetings -- Vint was
> very gracious and welcoming.
> --Some of it is documented in various TCP and Internet Experiment Notes
> (IENs) -- meetings we attended, use of the PRNET, etc., etc.
> --It is correct that we had some constraints on what we could say about the
> specific PUP design and implementation.  But we were able to take part in
> discussions about broader internetworking issues.
> --For example, in our contribution of IEN 20 on internetwork fragmentation,
> we wrote about alternate strategies, and then about picking one: "...our
> current attitude is based on instinct, some experience....."  We sure hoped
> everyone would get the hint.....
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien20.pdf
> --Ron Crane and Yogen Dalal, who had worked with Vint at Stanford, later
> came to Xerox (actually SDD, not PARC).
> Vint, those were good times.
> John Shoch
> PS:  It's almost dinner time here, and the discussion of Louis Kao's pot
> stickers is really bringing back memories.
> --After Hsi Nan, in Town and Country, Louis (Louie) ran a restaurant in
> Menlo Park, one on Univ. Ave. in Palo Alto, a Foster's Freeze on El Camino,
> and later a restaurant in San Mateo.  I followed him to all of these, if
> only for the pot stickers (and kung pao chicken).
> --Some of you may recall Louis and Sandra's son, who was often in the
> restaurant.  I'm told he has opened restaurants in the E. Bay, but I have
> not yet been able to visit.....pork dumplings are on the menu.
> http://www.noodletheory.com/
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