[ih] byte order, was Octal vs Hex, not Re: Dotted decimal notation

[John Day]

There was also a one-liner well-known socket.  ;-)

> On Dec 31, 2020, at 15:34, the keyboard of geoff goodfellow via Internet-history <internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
> jack, sure thought so that that so called "legend" is Total Fantasy...!
> 
> btw, serial lines connected to the PDP-10's Line Scanner caused an
> Interrupt Per Character... the fact that Mazwar (most especially with your
> "bandwidth enhancement") became consumer of CPU jives with yours truly's
> remembrance of our KA-10 (SRI-AI) when yours truly requested our display
> terminal speeds get upped to 9600 baud (from 2400) and was told that wasn't
> gonna happen cuz 4 9600 baud terminals going flat out would consume all the
> the CPU (and leave nothing for the users programs to run)!
> 
> we did have ONE "terminal" that went at 9600 baud: a
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEC_GT40 vector graphic terminal and when we
> downloaded programs to it (it was located in our machine room not to far
> from the KA-10's console) you could see the light on the console
> corresponding to its Job # be on SOLID -- for a program that was
> literally just spewing/typing out the contents of the executable being
> swallowed by the GT40.
> 
> now speaking of something that DARPA DID summarily ban: the NCP port 21
> "Short Text Message" (dirty) Limerick Server... :D
> 
> geoff
> 
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 9:42 AM Jack Haverty via Internet-history <
> internet-history at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
>> I just asked this question on a forum of ex-BBN employees, which is
>> populated by many of the people who were involved with building and
>> operating the ARPANET from its beginning and through the 70s and 80s.
>> That elicited answers from the two people who were in charge of the
>> ARPANET project through that time, with ARPA as their client/boss, as
>> well as engineers who worked on building and operating it.
>> 
>> The consensus -- no such thing as ARPA banning MazeWars over the ARPANET
>> actually happened:
>> 
>> "I would have heard about it if it were true.  I was deeply connected
>> with ARPA at the time"
>> 
>> So I'd consider that pretty good evidence that the "legend" is fantasy.
>> 
>> MazeWars was (unsuccessfully) banned at MIT-DM as it became a prime
>> consumer of CPU and Console time, but that mostly just shifted gaming
>> into the wee hours of the day.   No ARPANET involved.
>> 
>> /Jack Haverty
>> (MIT-DM 1970-1977; BBN 1977-1990)
>> 
>> On 12/31/20 4:10 AM, Lars Brinkhoff via Internet-history wrote:
>>> Geoff Goodfellow wrote:
>>>> the MIT PDP-10 reference must be of Al Vezza's MIT-DM host, but yours
>> truly
>>>> is kinda perplexed over the last sentence of:
>>>> 
>>>> "Mazewar games between MIT and Stanford were a major data load on the
>>>> early Arpanet."
>>>> 
>>>> wondering just what host at Stanford this must have been -- if not
>> SU-AI --
>>>> which yours truly recalls had a couple of Imlac's -- one of which was at
>>>> JMC's (John McCarthy's) house and other at RWW's (Richard Weyhrauch's)
>>>> house -- both of which were connected with 1200 baud leased lines...
>> hardly
>>>> big enough to "contribute" to "a major data load on the early Arpanet."
>> --
>>>> most especially given that JMC &/ RWW didn't seem to be the mazewar
>> playing
>>>> kinda folks...
>>>> 
>>>> anyone got more "history" here on this...¿¿¿
>>> I have seen this story many times, but no evidence to back it up.
>>> 
>>> It seems DEC WRL's MazeWar for X10/X11/Sunview is one source for the
>>> claim.  The manpage says "MazeWar first appeared at MIT in the early
>>> 1970s, using IMLAC displays and the ArpaNet network.  Legend has it
>>> that, at one point during that period, MazeWar was banned by DARPA from
>>> the ArpaNet because half of all the packets in a given month were
>>> MazeWar packets flying between Stanford and MIT."
>> 
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