[ih] Today’s Internet Still Relies on an ARPANET-Era Protocol: The Request for Comments (Steve Crocker)

Miles Fidelman mfidelman at meetinghouse.net
Fri Aug 7 22:49:27 PDT 2020


I should know that, damn it.  I had an account on the MIT-AI ITS system 
back in 1971 (yup, just before Ray Tomlison unleashed ARPANET email on 
the world)!

But... It doesn't work.  Probably need to fiddle with my telnet config.

One of these days, I'll get around to checking out the one at the Living 
Computer Museum.  Or just download the emulator and build it on my 
laptop.  (Hmmm.... I wonder if it would compile for an Android phone!)

Miles

On 8/7/20 10:38 PM, the keyboard of geoff goodfellow wrote:
> you'll need to ^Z (Ctrl-Z) to get ITS attention after the telnet 
> connection opens... ^Z on ITS kinda like ^C on Tenex/TOPS-20's -- from 
> that era when we had ASCII terminals connected to the PDP-10's line 
> scanner. :
>
> btw, there is another ITS running over at the Living Computer Museum, 
> but you'll need to ssh into menu at tty.LivingComputers.org 
> <mailto:menu at tty.LivingComputers.org> to get to it. :D
>
> geoff
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 4:00 PM Miles Fidelman via Internet-history 
> <internet-history at elists.isoc.org 
> <mailto:internet-history at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:
>
>     Cool!
>
>     Just tried it, got to
>
>     Connected to the KA-10 simulator DPK device, line
>
>     And then it just froze.
>
>     I expect it might be overloaded right now, by everyone trying it out,
>     all at once. :-)
>
>     Miles
>
>
>
>
>     On 8/7/20 8:25 PM, Jack Haverty via Internet-history wrote:
>     > Believe it.  I just logged  into the ITS system MIT-DM (Arpanet
>     host 0,
>     > IMP 6), from my Ubuntu desktop
>     > Well, OK its running today on a simulated PDP-10, in Sweden
>     rather than
>     > MIT, and the ITS code was resurrected from ancient backup
>     tapes.   The
>     > network address is a little different.  But Telnet and FTP still
>     work
>     > fine.   Just like in 1972.   A nice historical reconstruction by the
>     > ITS-HACKERS crew.   Try it.  /Jack
>     >
>     > ------------------------
>     >
>     > $ telnet its.pdp10.se <http://its.pdp10.se> 1972
>     > Trying 88.99.191.74...
>     > Connected to pdp10.se <http://pdp10.se>.
>     > Escape character is '^]'.
>     >
>     >
>     > Connected to the KA-10 simulator DPK device, line 1
>     >
>     > sys^F
>     >    DSK  SYS
>     >  FREE BLOCKS U0 #0 6026 U1 #1 6462 U2 #2 6462
>     >    0   ATSIGN DRAGON 3 !4/20/72 12:35:03
>     >    0   ATSIGN HACTRN 14 !8/1/71 06:08:48
>     >    0   TS     DMP    4 !8/1/71 16:38:50
>     >    0   TS     DUMP   5 !-
>     >    0   TS     LOCK   2 !4/20/72 12:35:11
>     >    0   TS     MIDAS  15 !-
>     >    0   TS     NTECO  14 !4/20/72 12:35:38
>     >    0   TS     PDSET  2 !-
>     >    0   TS     PEEK   6 !4/20/72 12:35:24
>     >    0   TS     PRUFD  1 !-
>     >
>     > ----------
>     >
>     > On 8/7/20 4:11 PM, Bernie Cosell via Internet-history wrote:
>     >> that FTP and TELNET are still used, but I barely believe it :o)]
>     >>
>     >>    /Bernie\
>     >>              Bernie Cosell
>     >> bernie at fantasyfarm.com <mailto:bernie at fantasyfarm.com>
>     >> -- Too many people; too few sheep --
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra

Theory is when you know everything but nothing works.
Practice is when everything works but no one knows why.
In our lab, theory and practice are combined:
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