[ih] Internet-history Digest, Vol 2, Issue 16

Wed Nov 6 01:43:31 PST 2019

geoff,
thanks -by the way it's Plummer not Plumber.

The first two network test that I knew about was the famous PRNET to
ARPANET transfer from Rosotti's in 1976 - when were your tests done and
what exactly was the path. There would have to have been a TCP (or
IP)-aware gateway from PRNET into ARPANET to qualify as an Internet test.

v

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 6:47 PM the keyboard of geoff goodfellow <
geoff at iconia.com> wrote:

> vint, as best yours truly can recall, prior to TCP being integrated into
> the Tenex monitor, there were several BCPL user level programs written by
> Bill Plumber at BBN that used a (new at the time) ICP mechanism to
> communicate between them.
>
> there were four programs (TCP, Sink, ECHO O, and a telnet server that used
> PTY's -- rather than NVT's) to support remote user logins.  There was also
> a TCP User Telnet program that allows outward TCP telneting ICP'ng to the
> user TCP program.
>
> each of these programs (TCP, Sink, ECHO O, and a telnet server that used
> PTY's) were auto started at system boot time by using SYSJOB's "CRJOB"
> mechanism to log each of them in "DETACHED" under WHEEL'd user TCP.
>
> Bill Plumber then later came out to SRI to install either this user TCP
> stuff (and the ICP and PTY monitor code) or later when TCP was integrated
> into the monitor (in PDP-10 Macro Assembly Language) on what was originally
> SRI-AI, then SRI-KA, then DARCOM-KA (where the NSW [National Software
> Works] also ran).
>
> as part of this installation and debugging process we would summarily stop
> this work each night to watch the latest episode of *Mary Hartman, Mary
> Hartman* on a portable TV yours truly brought in...
>
> as you may recall, yours truly had one of the Collins Packet Radio's with
> the LSI-11 (hostname Fernwood) attached to it in yours truly's office at
> the time which would look out at the PRNet antenna mast across the SRI
> parking lot to the building where the SRI-C3P0 and SRI-R2D2 Gateway PDP-11
> resided.
>
> yours truly believes that the SRI Bay Area PRNet LSI-11 to Tenex Host
> communications first occurred using Bill Plumbers Tenex User level BCPL TCP
> stuff before any USC-ISI (Tenex Monitor integrated TCP) was done.
>
> unfortunately, neither Bill Plumber or Ray Tomlinson are around
> to corroborate/chime in on this, so maybe Dan Lynch, Jim Mathis (or even
> Ron Kunzelman, Keith Klemba, Don Cone could), but don't know if they are on
> the Internet-History list or not (but clearly should be)...
>
> ah, those were The Fun Days... :-)
>
> From: the tty of Geoffrey S. Goodfellow
> GEOFF at SRI-AI
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:54 PM Vint Cerf <vint at google.com> wrote:
>
>> July (or at least summer?) 1976 between the Packet Radio network mobile
>> host (LSI-11) and probably a host at USC-ISI on the ARPANET. Nov 22, 1977
>> was the first 3 net test, adding the Packet Satellite Network
>>
>> vint
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:38 PM Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Party pooper!
>>>
>>> When was the first actual inter-network message sent using packet
>>> technology?
>>>
>>> Joly MacFie
>>> 218 565 9365 <(218)%20565-9365>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 5:13 PM Jay Hauben <hauben at columbia.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> 50 years ago the first data was sent between two ARPANET IMPS. The
>>>> ARPANET was a forerunner of the Internet but was not itself an internet. It
>>>> was a single network not an internetwork.
>>>>
>>>> Take care.
>>>>
>>>> Jay
>>>>
>>>>
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