[ih] Congratulations! -- the "Nobel Prize for engineering"!

Vint Cerf vint at google.com
Mon Mar 18 13:51:53 PDT 2013


Louis reinforced my affection for "datagrams" and his flow control window I
borrowed wholesale for TCP. I have always given credit to Louis for the
window concept. We altered it to be octet-oriented rather then message
oriented but otherwise...

v


On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Alex McKenzie <amckenzie3 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Noel,
>
> In an a "anecdote" (not refereed) published in the IEEE Annals of the
> History of Computing a while back (updated copy available at
> http://alexmckenzie.weebly.com/inwg-and-the-conception-of-the-internet-an-eyewitness-account.html)
> I wrote:
>
> At the New York meeting of INWG (International [Packet] Network Working
> Group) 7-8 June 1973, a small team of engineers with implementation
> experience in ARPANET (US), Cyclades (F), MERIT (US), and NPL (UK) created
> a first draft of an International Transmission Protocol (ITP).
> Vint Cerf served as the editor of this document, which was distributed as
> a set of supplements to INWG 28.
> ...
> About a month later, Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn distributed INWG 39, which
> they described as “an attempt to collect and integrate the ideas uncovered
> at the June 1973 INWG meeting in New York, as well as some ideas which have
> been worked out since that time by various other people.”
>
> INWG 39 has been described as the first version of TCP/IP.
>
> Bob Kahn asserts that he was unaware of anything that happened at the INWG
> meeting.  He asserts that he believed that the quotation above was added to
> the cover page of INWG 39 by Vint, and that he (Bob) believed that it was a
> boilerplate sentence required on INWG documents.
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Noel Chiappa <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
> *To:* internet-history at postel.org
> *Cc:* jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu
> *Sent:* Monday, March 18, 2013 2:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ih] Congratulations! -- the "Nobel Prize for engineering"!
>
> ...
>
> I'd be curious to hear from Vint (since I'm not sure this point has been
> explicity addressed) i) how familiar he and Bob Kahn were with the details
> of
> the CYCLADES work, and ii) how influential it was in their thinking.
> ....
>
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