[ih] Fwd: [IP] OSI: The Internet That Wasn't

[Vint Cerf]

telenet led he development of x.25 (Larry Roberts and Barry Wessler) along
with the British Post Office, the French Reseau Communication par Paquet
from CNET (Remi Despres) and Dave(?) Horton of DATAPAC in Canada.


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:47 AM, John Day <jeanjour at comcast.net> wrote:

> Yea, the PTTs in Europe were pretty clueless in general.  There is very
> little way that they could have known much about the ARPANET experience,
> nor would they have listened if they could.  Remember the reaction ATT had
> to the ARPANET at ICCC '72.  They thought it was a joke.  Not an uncommon
> reaction to those in an old paradigm not seeing the elements of a new one
> in the first stages of formation.
>
> I have heard rumors that the Telenet guys had considerable input into X.25
> but I don't know if that was true.  Remi Despres wrote a fairly long
> article on it in IEEE Annals of Computing History.
>
>
>
> At 10:07 AM -0400 7/30/13, Bernie Cosell wrote:
>
>> On 30 Jul 2013 at 9:27, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>
>>   ------- forwarded -----
>>>
>>>  IEEE Spectrum just published online, titled "OSI: The Internet That
>>>  Wasn't."  OSI, of course, is the acronym for Open Systems
>>>  Interconnection.
>>>
>>
>> Interesting stuff.  I had virtually no interaction with the
>> "International" stuff except for one thing: at some point [I can't
>> remember when, but I suspect Dave can] they came out with a draft
>> proposal for X.25 level 3.  Since that would affect the TIP and I was TIP
>> czar at the time, Dave [I think] asked me to critique the proposal.
>>
>> What it was, was HDLC kludged up to sort-of be full-duplex, but in a way
>> that could never work.  They seemed to have learned none of the lessons
>> we [ARPAnet folk] had with redoing the TELNET protocol.  I wrote a pretty
>> scathing critique that I *think* got published [was it IEEE Comm?].  I
>> believe that not long after that they withdrew the proposal...:o)   It
>> was kind of fun, but I never did get involved with it again [I was
>> already off of the relevant projects before we [BBN] put in X.25 support
>> in our systems].
>>
>>   /Bernie\
>>
>> --
>> Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
>> mailto:bernie at fantasyfarm.com     Pearisburg, VA
>>     -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--
>>
>
>
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