[ih] Success has many fathers but failure is an orphan
Jorge Amodio
jmamodio at gmail.com
Sat Jan 5 21:20:47 PST 2013
JVNCNet didn't get shutdown, the JVNC Supercomputer Center got shutdown,
the network continued to operate from Princeton University and later Sergio
Heker who worked there obtained the funds to transition it as a private
enterprise (the company was called Global Enterprise Services, Inc.). I
took over operations and engineering for JVCNet before being acquired by
VERIO. We were still providing connectivity to many universities and
academic institutions and I had to still file some reports with NSF since
part of the connection costs provided like by MCI were still funded by NSF.
I remember having on our office a lot of junk left over from the JVNC
center.
-J
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Miles Fidelman
<mfidelman at meetinghouse.net>wrote:
> Vint Cerf wrote:
>
>> I have no reason to dispute the facts in the story, either. However, the
>> writer does fail to recognize the pioneering nature of the CSNET (it
>> adopted TCP/IP thanks to Larry Landweber's 1980/81 intervention before
>> Dennis Jennings made the same decision for the NSFNET around 1985. If I am
>> remembering correctly, Dennis was involved with the super computer effort
>> at the time he recommended that the nascent NSFNET also make use of TCP/IP.
>> In Fall 1986, then-Senator Gore held a hearing at which Bob Kahn introduced
>> the term "information infrastructure" and Senator Gore asked whether an
>> optical fiber network should be constructed to link the Supercomputer
>> centers together. The head of CISE at that time was Gordon Bell and he
>> convened a Feb 1987 meeting in San Diego that led to the proposal for the
>> National Research and Education Network program. I also seem to recall that
>> the supercomputer center directors lobbied unsuccessfully to build their
>> own, disconnected networks on the grounds that performance required
>> specialization and control by each center [perhaps someone on the list can
>> clarify that hazy memory]. They were overruled (assuming I am remembering
>> this correctly) in favor of an NSF-wide network.
>>
>>
> I recall that some of the supercomputer centers DID have their own
> networks. Along those lines, was not NEARnet late to the NSFnet - pulled
> together as a last minute response to the imminent shutdown of JVNCnet?
>
> Miles Fidelman
>
>
> --
> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
> In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
>
>
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