[ih] Historical fiction

Vint Cerf vint at google.com
Sat May 12 18:19:04 PDT 2012


i am pretty sure that DCA had charge of ARPANET from about 1975-early
1983; heidi heiden might be good to consult about that.

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:40 PM, John Day <jeanjour at comcast.net> wrote:
> For the first few years, there was a well-known socket at NMC that would
> return a logical ARPANET map indicating who was up and down at that moment.
>  It would print on a single 8.5 x 11 page of paper on a Model 33 Teletype.
>  It was discontinued when it would no longer fit.
>
> SDC did have a node in Santa Monica and in DC.  I don't remember what was
> connected to it.  It may have been a TIP.  We were doing stuff with them in
> the late 70s.  The question is was it DARPA or DCA? or DISA?
>
> John
>
>
>
> At 18:35 -0400 2012/05/12, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>>
>>    > From: Craig Milo Rogers <rogers at ISI.EDU>
>>
>>    >> From: Dave Walden <dave.walden.family at gmail.com>
>>
>>    >> I think SDC was on the ARPANET, host number 10??
>>
>>    > SDC was on earlier than I remembered; they show up on the 1970
>> ARPANET
>>    > map. They dropped off the map, so to speak, around 1977.
>>
>> You saved me from making a big mistake! I consulted the entire series of
>> "Network Host Status" RFCs, and according to them it was 0/8 ("SDC
>> IBM-360/155") _but_ none of them ever showed it online. I tried looking in
>> such host tables as I have, and a host table I have from '77 shows IMP 8
>> being NRL. Which led me to guess they'd never been on... but that was
>> clearly
>> wrong: looking at some maps, I see they did.
>>
>> Speaking of maps, I've been accumulating a big collection of them, and
>> will
>> put them up on a web page shortly. Of particular interest are the logical
>> ones (not many of which are online), which also show the hosts.
>>
>> (Looking online for ones to add to the large collection I have here, I'm
>> amazed how much stuff has 404'd. Lots of collections pages, and most of
>> the
>> links to things don't work... :-( I saw a link to MSGGROUP archives, but
>> it
>> was gone - and when I Google'd for it, it wasn't anywhere else. Luckily, I
>> found a copy in WayBack, but that doesn't seem to be indexed.)
>>
>>
>> Oh, about host tables: I think I have asked about these before? I have one
>> from '77 (sort of - I think it's a list from an ARPANET Directory), one
>> from
>> '79, and then a lot from '82 on, but nothing early (and I seem to recall
>> looking hard).
>>
>> Does anyone have any early ones?
>>
>>
>>
>>    > Ari Shoshonan or something like that is a name that comes to mind.
>>
>> The contact name given in the RFCs is "Bob Long", FWTW.
>>
>>        Noel
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