[ih] Packet nets not connected to the ARPAnet

[John Day]

Now that you mention it (although admittedly not really 
internetworking), Multics was connected to both Telenet and the 
ARPANET.  In 1976, I moved to Houston so my wife could post-doc at 
Bailor College of Medicine and I continued to work at Illinois.  (I 
had a T-shirt made that says University of Illinois at Houston!) ;-) 
I would dial into Telenet in Houston, connect to Multics and then 
back to Illinois.  Did that for 2 years.

At 16:18 -0700 2012/07/23, Alex McKenzie wrote:
>Yes, There were packet networks not connected to the ARPAnet.  Two 
>in particular were: Cyclades/Cigale in France, and the European 
>Informatics Network with nodes in 6 of the Common Market countries. 
>There _were_ some interconnections between the public packet 
>networks (Telenet in the USA, Bell Canada, and the networks of the 
>PTTs in western Europe and Japan), but these interconnections were 
>extremely limited experiments for the most part.  CSNET (funded by 
>the NSF) used both ARPAnet and Telenet for transport but only 
>provided user-level (eg mail) interconnection and only for CSNET 
>members.
>
>
>
>From: Ofer Inbar <cos at aaaaa.org>
>To: Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
>Cc: internet-history at postel.org
>Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 6:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [ih] FYI - Gordon Crovitz/WSJ on "Who Really Invented 
>the Internet?"
>
>
>Ian Peter <<mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com>ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>>  The writer of the LA Times article might have done well if he had checked
>>  with his friend Bob Taylor. He writes.
>>
>>  "Bob Taylor is a friend of mine, and I think I can say without fear of
>>  contradiction that he fully endorses the idea as a point of personal pride
>>  that the government-funded ARPANet was very much the precursor of the
>>  Internet as we know it today"
>>
>>  Well that's not what Bob Taylor has written elsewhere. To quote Bob,
>>
>>  "I believe the first internet was created at Xerox PARC, circa '75, when we
>>  connected, via PUP, the Ethernet with the ARPAnet. PUP (PARC Universal
>>  Protocol) was instrumental later in defining TCP."
>
>That supports the assertion that the ARPANet was the precursor of the
>Internet, so I see no contradiction.
>
>Note that "the first internet" per se wouldn't necessarily have to be
>a precursor of "The Internet".  Were there any packet switched
>internets* in those days that did not connect to the ARPANet?  While
>those would not have had a direct lineage to The Internet, it'd still
>be interesting to know about them.  I don't recall hearing of any.
>
>* by which I mean: interconnections of administratively separate
>   networks in geographically separate locations with different
>   underlying network types - administratively separate is key
>
>   -- Cos
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