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<div>Now that you mention it (although admittedly not really
internetworking), Multics was connected to both Telenet and the
ARPANET. In 1976, I moved to Houston so my wife could post-doc
at Bailor College of Medicine and I continued to work at Illinois.
(I had a T-shirt made that says University of Illinois at Houston!)
;-) I would dial into Telenet in Houston, connect to Multics and
then back to Illinois. Did that for 2 years.</div>
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<div>At 16:18 -0700 2012/07/23, Alex McKenzie wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Yes, There were packet networks not
connected to the ARPAnet. Two in particular were:
Cyclades/Cigale in France, and the European Informatics Network with
nodes in 6 of the Common Market countries. There _were_ some
interconnections between the public packet networks (Telenet in the
USA, Bell Canada, and the networks of the PTTs in western Europe and
Japan), but these interconnections were extremely limited experiments
for the most part. CSNET (funded by the NSF) used both ARPAnet
and Telenet for transport but only provided user-level (eg mail)
interconnection and only for CSNET members.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"><b>From:</b>
Ofer Inbar <cos@aaaaa.org><br>
<b>To:</b> Ian Peter <ian.peter@ianpeter.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> internet-history@postel.org<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 23, 2012 6:41 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ih] FYI - Gordon Crovitz/WSJ on "Who Really
Invented the Internet?"</font><br>
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Ian Peter <<a
href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> The writer of the LA Times article might have done well if he had
checked<br>
> with his friend Bob Taylor. He writes.<br>
><br>
> "Bob Taylor is a friend of mine, and I think I can say
without fear of<br>
> contradiction that he fully endorses the idea as a point of
personal pride<br>
> that the government-funded ARPANet was very much the precursor of
the<br>
> Internet as we know it today"<br>
><br>
> Well that's not what Bob Taylor has written elsewhere. To quote
Bob,<br>
><br>
> "I believe the first internet was created at Xerox PARC,
circa '75, when we<br>
> connected, via PUP, the Ethernet with the ARPAnet. PUP (PARC
Universal<br>
> Protocol) was instrumental later in defining TCP."<br>
<br>
That supports the assertion that the ARPANet was the precursor of
the<br>
Internet, so I see no contradiction.<br>
<br>
Note that "the first internet" per se wouldn't necessarily
have to be<br>
a precursor of "The Internet". Were there any packet
switched<br>
internets* in those days that did not connect to the ARPANet?
While<br>
those would not have had a direct lineage to The Internet, it'd
still<br>
be interesting to know about them. I don't recall hearing of
any.<br>
<br>
* by which I mean: interconnections of administratively separate<br>
networks in geographically separate locations with
different<br>
underlying network types - administratively separate is key<br>
<br>
-- Cos</blockquote>
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