[ih] First file transfer on ARPANET
John Day
jeanjour at comcast.net
Fri Dec 21 13:40:53 PST 2012
I thought cloud was just the ultimate MIMD machine and the move back
to the centralized datacenter model. What happens when processors
get very cheap.
At 16:31 -0500 2012/12/21, Craig Partridge wrote:
> > John Day <jeanjour at comcast.net> wrote:
>> > Our biggest problem was that our vision quickly outstripped the
>> > capability of the computers of the day. (NLS was a very good example
>> > of working beyond the ragged edge) Our model was that the Net should
>> > be a virtual OS that we could just use. Too bad those ideas were
>> > abandoned and we haven't moved very far in the last 35 years.
>> >
>> > It really is too bad that the Internet ended up being more like DOS
>> > than a real OS.
>>
>> My impression in the few years after I got on the net at the beginning
>> of 1990 was that distributed computing using the net as you describe
>> was out there and slowly progressing, and that stuff started dying or
>> getting blocked in the mid to late 90s due to security problems as the
>> net got bigger and more public and everyone started reflexively
>> turning off their RPC services and similar things. How does that
>> correlate to the impressions of people who'd seen the 80s on the net?
>
>My impression (I started in 1983) is that distributed computing was
>an idea that for a brief period worked -- the time required for long
>distance communication roughly was in sync with processor times, from
>about the late 1970s until the early 1990s. That's when we saw distributed
>file systems flourish and experiments with distributed shared memory.
>
>Then the speed of light constrained us. The cloud (namely clustering a
>bunch of machines very close and limiting our exchange to the start
>and end of the computation) is an interesting approach to circumventing that
>problem.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Craig
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