[ih] The origin of variable length packets

John Day jeanjour at comcast.net
Tue Mar 1 04:06:50 PST 2011


At 0:06 -0500 2011/03/01, Vint Cerf wrote:
>correct, dave
>
>
>On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Dave Walden 
><<mailto:dave.walden.family at gmail.com>dave.walden.family at gmail.com> 
>wrote:
>
>At 07:50 PM 2/28/2011, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>
>I would assume/guess that the first well-known and wide-scale use was in the
>
>ARPANet.For the ARPANET:
>
>  Frank Heart, Robert Kahn, Severo Ornstein, William Crowther, David Walden,
>  The Interface Message Processor for the ARPA Computer Network (1970 Spring
>  Joint Computer Conference, AFIPS Proc. Vol. 36, pp. 551.567, 1970)
>
>
>Hi,
>
>
>I'm not close to home right now, so I can't look up what ARPA's call 
>for bids (RFQ) to develop the ARPANET IMP's specified.  I sort of 
>feel that it already specified that the host computers could send 
>messages that were variable length up to about 8,000 bits, and the 
>packet-subnet of IMPs broke these messages into about 1,000 bit 
>packets with the last packet in a message being possibly being 
>shorter than a full 1,000 bits.  Anyway, that's the way, as I 
>remember, that we initially implemented it in the IMPs.  I do 
>remember that there was a preconception of bi-modal message traffic 
>with file transfers being broken into 8,000 bit messages, and 
>interactive terminal traffic being messages of only 10s or 100s of 
>bits, i.e., one packet or less.  I also think I remember that the (I 
>think 24-bit) CRC on inter-IMP packets was calculated to have the 
>desired error detection rate based on 1,000 bit packets.
>
>Dave
>
>
>
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