[ih] Origination date for the Internet

Guy Almes galmes at tamu.edu
Fri Oct 29 09:32:56 PDT 2010


Randy,
   I was trying to emphasize the technical aspect.
   Did the CIX pioneers not realize, at the outset, that using a router 
as an interconnect would make things odd in an (ahem) dynamically 
evolving business environment?
   My impression is that all subsequent interconnects have been layer-2 
switches and such.

   Regards,
	-- Guy
p.s.: And, as for the non-technical issues of that era, thanks for being 
one of the grownups

On 10/29/10 8:42 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
> [ i really had planned to remain silent, sigh ]
>
>> so I learned from Randy Bush about the Cisco 7500 (and maybe AGS
>> before).
>
> s/7500/7000/ as someone noted earlier.  and yes, the cix as number was
> in the middle of the path.  and under-provisioning was a game played by
> some, uu in particular, to pretend to be open about peering while not
> really being so.
>
> uu, psi, and later cerf and more were bilats, though the social
> agreement was that it was to be a multi-lat.  ans bitched and whined,
> and really tried to hold on to what they thought was an nsf-granted
> monopoly.  susan estrada has not spoken to me since i publicly offered
> to pay ans's $10k cix fee if they would stop whining and join.
>
> this should all be on the com-priv list, wherever that is archived.  but
> one minute with google did not find it.
>
> randy
>



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