[ih] Origination date for the Internet

[Bob Hinden]

Guy,

On Oct 28, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Guy Almes wrote:

> Vint et al.,
>  I wonder about how many (mostly departmental) LANs were running TCP/IP and connected to the ARPAnet by 1-Jan-83?

I am not sure.  LANs were still pretty novel.  I think Ethernet was still the big yellow cable that you had to drill into to install a transceiver.  

Bob


> 
>  	-- Guy
> 
> On 10/28/10 4:44 PM, Vint Cerf wrote:
>> actually ISI tracked TCP/IP capability during 1982; the primary
>> regular use was from Europe, especially the UK, prior to january 1983;
>> by then there LANS connecting to the ARPANET by way of gateways
>> (Proteon was around with its rings - Noel Chiappa is that correct?).
>> Then came Cisco but i guess after 1984.
>> 
>> Of course during 1982 many ARPANET sites came up on TCP/IP in parallel
>> with NCP.
>> 
>> v
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Miles Fidelman
>> <mfidelman at meetinghouse.net>  wrote:
>>> Bob,
>>> 
>>> Bob Hinden wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I still have my "I Survived the TCP Transition 1/1/83" red button.
>>>> 
>>>> In my view this was the time when the Internet became operational as
>>>> people starting using it for their day to day work, instead of a set of
>>>> researchers.  Conception and birth occurred earlier :-)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Actually, that raises another interesting question: At what point, prior to
>>> 1/1/83, if any, was there a minimal set of networks, gateways, and end
>>> systems that were passing IP packets on an ongoing basis - as opposed to
>>> being cobbled together to run some experiment or other, and then brought
>>> back down?  Can we isolate a date when IP packets started flowing and never
>>> stopped?
>>> 
>>> Miles
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
>>> In<fnord>    practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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