[ih] Origination date for the Internet

[Guy Almes]

Vint,
   I recall that, at the University of Washington, we were waiting for 
Berkeley to mail us a tape with the release (I think 4.1) that we 
needed.  The timeliness of those Berkeley releases in this story is 
probably important.
	-- Guy

On 10/28/10 5:25 PM, Vint Cerf wrote:
> beats me - 3COM was in operation by then and Berkeley BSD 4.x had also
> been released, right?
>
> v
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> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Guy Almes<galmes at tamu.edu>  wrote:
>> Vint et al.,
>>   I wonder about how many (mostly departmental) LANs were running TCP/IP and
>> connected to the ARPAnet by 1-Jan-83?
>>
>>         -- Guy
>>
>> On 10/28/10 4:44 PM, Vint Cerf wrote:
>>>
>>> actually ISI tracked TCP/IP capability during 1982; the primary
>>> regular use was from Europe, especially the UK, prior to january 1983;
>>> by then there LANS connecting to the ARPANET by way of gateways
>>> (Proteon was around with its rings - Noel Chiappa is that correct?).
>>> Then came Cisco but i guess after 1984.
>>>
>>> Of course during 1982 many ARPANET sites came up on TCP/IP in parallel
>>> with NCP.
>>>
>>> v
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Miles Fidelman
>>> <mfidelman at meetinghouse.net>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> Bob Hinden wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I still have my "I Survived the TCP Transition 1/1/83" red button.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my view this was the time when the Internet became operational as
>>>>> people starting using it for their day to day work, instead of a set of
>>>>> researchers.  Conception and birth occurred earlier :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually, that raises another interesting question: At what point, prior
>>>> to
>>>> 1/1/83, if any, was there a minimal set of networks, gateways, and end
>>>> systems that were passing IP packets on an ongoing basis - as opposed to
>>>> being cobbled together to run some experiment or other, and then brought
>>>> back down?  Can we isolate a date when IP packets started flowing and
>>>> never
>>>> stopped?
>>>>
>>>> Miles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
>>>> In<fnord>      practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra
>>>>
>>>>
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