[ih] arpanet mailing lists

[Ronda Hauben]

Hi Chris

I did a paper about the early mailing lists including msggroup and it also
included a bit on Usenet at the end.

http://ais.org/~ronda/new.papers/msghist.txt
   ARPANET Mailing Lists and Usenet Newsgroups
      Creating an Open and Scientific Process
        for Technology Development and Diffusion


best wishes

ronda




On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Elizabeth Feinler <Feinler at earthlink.net>wrote:

> Hi Chris, et al,
> I am not sure what you are looking for - the content of the lists or the
> names of the people on the lists?  I don't know the names as they were
> bundled under a blanket distribution name; however, the Computer History
> Museum in Mountain View, CA does have some of the old contents of the
> mailing lists.  These are very incomplete, but would give you a flavor of
> what was discussed on the lists.  I know we have some Human-Nets messages,
> but no Sci-Fi that I can recall (at least not in the stuff I contributed).
>  I also remember a list of lists that tells what mailing lists were
> prevalent at the time.
>
> Paula Jabloner (jabloner at computerhistory.org) is the Head Archivist and
> would be the person to contact for permission to look at what we have.
>  Chris, I don't know where you are located.  If you are in Silicon Valley, I
> would be glad to show you what we have (with Paula's permission, of course,
> as these now belong to the museum.)
>
> Also, contact Peter Neumann at SRI as he is a long time member of CSL and
> might know if anyone there kept a copy of the mailing list and its contents.
> (probably Neumann or Pneumann at sri.com)
>
> Another contact might be Richard Zellich.  He used to be with the Army in
> the St. Louis area.  I have lost touch with him; however, his last name is
> unusual so you might be able to find it online.  Rich used to keep up the
> list-of-lists and often provided this to the NIC way back when.
>
> I am sending this to the Internet-history group also, to urge those of you
> that might have copies of the contents of the old distribution lists, to let
> us know at the museum where they live online, or  consider donating them, if
> in hardcopy.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jake Feinler
>  On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Jeff Rulifson wrote:
>
> Jake: Can you help Vint help Chris find any ARPANET email list from the
> period between 1970 and 1975? Thanks, Jeff
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Vint Cerf <vint at google.com> wrote:
>
>> les, jeff
>> who might know more about these early mailing lists? maybe jake feinler??
>> someone at Stanford?
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>  *From: *"Christopher S. Leslie" <cleslie at poly.edu>
>> *Date: *July 6, 2009 4:53:04 AM EDT
>> *To: *internet-his <internet-history at postel.org>
>> internet-history at postel.orgtory@postel.org <internet-history at postel.org>
>>
>>     *Subject: **[ih] arpanet mailing lists*
>>
>>   Dear Internet History List:
>> Greetings. I am trying to learn more about the original mailing lists on
>> ARPANET, particularly sf-lovers (sfl at sri-csl) and human-nets, for a book
>> on science fiction. Although I see some information about these lists when
>> they were forwarded to Usenet, there earlier lists on ARPANET that predate
>> Usenet by a few years (perhaps as early as 1975).
>>
>> I do not know what to expect from this query, but I would appreciate any
>> and all leads. I am hopeful that somewhere in the world there is a complete
>> archive, but that of course would be too good to be true. If anyone have
>> memories of this list, or can put me into contact with someone who does,
>> please let me know. I would also appreciate anyone who can provide me with
>> citations to research about this topic, as my search has turned up very
>> little.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Chris Leslie
>>
>>
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