[ih] arpanet mailing lists

Vint Cerf vint at google.com
Mon Jul 6 15:24:58 PDT 2009


thanks Jake - I am hoping that Les Earnest will be able to shed some  
light. Good idea to consult with the CHM also.

v

On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Elizabeth Feinler wrote:

> Hi Chris, et al,
>
> I am not sure what you are looking for - the content of the lists or  
> the names of the people on the lists?  I don't know the names as  
> they were bundled under a blanket distribution name; however, the  
> Computer History Museum in Mountain View, CA does have some of the  
> old contents of the mailing lists.  These are very incomplete, but  
> would give you a flavor of what was discussed on the lists.  I know  
> we have some Human-Nets messages, but no Sci-Fi that I can recall  
> (at least not in the stuff I contributed).  I also remember a list  
> of lists that tells what mailing lists were prevalent at the time.
>
> Paula Jabloner (jabloner at computerhistory.org) is the Head Archivist  
> and would be the person to contact for permission to look at what we  
> have.  Chris, I don't know where you are located.  If you are in  
> Silicon Valley, I would be glad to show you what we have (with  
> Paula's permission, of course, as these now belong to the museum.)
>
> Also, contact Peter Neumann at SRI as he is a long time member of  
> CSL and might know if anyone there kept a copy of the mailing list  
> and its contents. (probably Neumann or Pneumann at sri.com)
>
> Another contact might be Richard Zellich.  He used to be with the  
> Army in the St. Louis area.  I have lost touch with him; however,  
> his last name is unusual so you might be able to find it online.   
> Rich used to keep up the list-of-lists and often provided this to  
> the NIC way back when.
>
> I am sending this to the Internet-history group also, to urge those  
> of you that might have copies of the contents of the old  
> distribution lists, to let us know at the museum where they live  
> online, or  consider donating them, if in hardcopy.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jake Feinler
> On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Jeff Rulifson wrote:
>
>> Jake: Can you help Vint help Chris find any ARPANET email list from  
>> the period between 1970 and 1975? Thanks, Jeff
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Vint Cerf <vint at google.com> wrote:
>> les, jeff
>>
>> who might know more about these early mailing lists? maybe jake  
>> feinler?? someone at Stanford?
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: "Christopher S. Leslie" <cleslie at poly.edu>
>>> Date: July 6, 2009 4:53:04 AM EDT
>>> To: internet-hisinternet-history at postel.orgtory@postel.org
>>> Subject: [ih] arpanet mailing lists
>>>
>>> Dear Internet History List:
>>>
>>> Greetings. I am trying to learn more about the original mailing  
>>> lists on ARPANET, particularly sf-lovers (sfl at sri-csl) and human- 
>>> nets, for a book on science fiction. Although I see some  
>>> information about these lists when they were forwarded to Usenet,  
>>> there earlier lists on ARPANET that predate Usenet by a few years  
>>> (perhaps as early as 1975).
>>>
>>> I do not know what to expect from this query, but I would  
>>> appreciate any and all leads. I am hopeful that somewhere in the  
>>> world there is a complete archive, but that of course would be too  
>>> good to be true. If anyone have memories of this list, or can put  
>>> me into contact with someone who does, please let me know. I would  
>>> also appreciate anyone who can provide me with citations to  
>>> research about this topic, as my search has turned up very little.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Chris Leslie
>>>
>>>
>>> Christopher S. Leslie, Ph.D.
>>> Co-Advisor, Science and Technology Studies
>>> Polytechnic Institute of New York University
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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