[ih] Date of RFC 791 for celebration

John Day jeanjour at comcast.net
Tue Mar 28 19:28:47 PST 2006


I thought INWG was IFIP WG6.1 The International Network Working Group.

I am thinking of something else?

John

At 21:27 -0500 2006/03/28, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>Michiel Leenaars (Michiel at staff.isoc.nl) is trying to find the exact
>birth-date of what we now call IPv4
>
>My sense is that if we could find out the exact date of the Internet Working
>Group (INWG) meeting at which they hashed out what looked basically like the
>eventual IPv4 (I think it was IP 3.1, if I have the version number right),
>that would be "the" birthdate.
>
>
>This, alas, predates me slightly, and I have the history somewhatl muddled in
>my head. Also, even more problematically, many of the relevant IEN's are not
>available online, which makes it difficult to research... Anyway, there were
>two major predecessor steps shortly before IP firmed up:
>
>- TCP and IP were split
>- Variable length addresses were removed, leaving fixed 4-byte addresses
>
>I am not 100% positive which happened first (or if they happened at the same
>time), although I have become fairly sure that the split happened first, with
>the removal of variable-length addresses later...
>
>And then there's the issue of version numbers: there are 2, 2.5, 3, 3.1 and
>4. What I hear is that 2.5 was a "implementation split", in which the unified
>single header remained, but the code was split into two. 3 was the first
>version that had the headers fully split (and included "protocol numbers" to
>identify which transport protocol was being used - see list below), but my
>guess is that it included variable-length addresses.  I seem to recall that
>3.1 had the variable-length addresses removed, and 4 was an editorial cleanup
>of 3.1
>
>So:
>
>- Is that the right order for the split, and variable-length address
>	removal?
>- Can we identify the version numbers (2.5, 3, 3.1, etc) which go with
>	each version?
>- Can anyone identify the INWG meeting at which the latter happened?
>
>
>----
>
>
>Additional data:
>
>To help refresh memories, here's a list, from the minutes of the 15 August,
>'77 Internet Meeting Notes, of planned future INWG meetings. Ones which
>eventually seemed to happen (as evidenced by minutes in the IEN series) are
>marked with a '*', and the relevant IEN number (although I have no idea if
>they happened at the place listed):
>
>        15 Aug 77 - Internet meeting at ISI
>     13-14 Oct 77 - TCP      meeting at SRI* [66]
>         3 Nov 77 - Internet meeting at BBN
>     30-31 Jan 78 - TCP      meeting at ISI* [67]
>         3 Feb 78 - Internet meeting at UCLA* [22 - 1 Feb]
>     20-21 Apr 78 - TCP      meeting at BBN
>      1- 2 May 78 - Internet meeting at UCL* [33]
>     13-14 Jul 78 - TCP      meeting at PARC
>      2- 3 Aug 78 - Internet meeting at LL* [53]
>     12-13 Oct 78 - TCP      meeting at LCS
>      2- 3 Nov 78 - Internet meeting at SRI
>
>and the following meetings for which IEN minutes (numbers in []'s) exist, but
>aren't in the above list, also occurred:
>
>     15-16 Jun 78 - TCP [68]
>     18-19 Sep 78 - TCP [69]
>     30-31 Oct 78 - Internet [63]
>     4 Dec 78 - TCP [70]
>
>Alas, none of these minutes are online. To further help jog memories, here are
>the listings for all the seemingly relevant early IEN's:
>
>    5	Cerf	Mar-77	    TCP Version 2 Specification
>   21	Cerf	Jan-78	    TCP 3 Specification
>   26	Cerf	14-Feb-78   A Proposed New Internet Header Format
>   27	Cerf	14-Feb-78   A Proposal for TCP Version 3.1 Header Format
>   28	Postel	Feb-78	    Draft Internetwork Protocol
>   40	Postel	Jun-78      Specification of Internetwork 
>Transmission Control Protocol
>					  - Version 4
>   41	Postel	Jun-78	    Internetwork Protocol Specification - Version 4
>
>and finally, some other stuff: RFC-750 contains the following numbers for
>protocol type (some extraneous ones deleted):
>
>       Decimal   Octal      Format                             References
>       -------   -----      ------                             ----------
>           0      0         Reserved
>           1      1         raw internet                             [42]
>           2      2         TCP-3                                    [36]
>           5      5         TCP-3.1                                  [45]
>           6      6         TCP-4                                    [46]
>
>And there's also a table of IP header version numbers:
>
>       Decimal   Octal      Version                            References
>       -------   -----      -------                            ----------
>           0      0         March 1977 version                       [35]
>           1      1         January 1978 version                     [36]
>           2      2         February 1978 version A                  [42]
>           3      3         February 1978 version B                  [43]
>           4      4         September 1978 version 4                 [44]
>
>    [35]   Cerf, V. "Specification of Internet Transmission Control
>           Program -- TCP (version 2)," March 1977.
>    [36]   Cerf, V. and J. Postel, "Specification of Internetwork
>           Transmission Control Program -- TCP Version 3,"
>           USC-Information Sciences Institute, January 1978.
>
>    [42]   Postel, J. "Draft Internetwork Protocol Specification --
>           Version 2," USC-Information Sciences Institute, February 1978.
>    [43]   Cerf, V. "A Proposed New Internet Header Format," Advanced
>           Research Projects Agency, IEN 26, 14 February 1978.
>    [44]   Postel, J. "Internetwork Protocol Specification -- Version 4,"
>           IEN-54, USC-Information Sciences Institute, September 1978.
>    [45]   Cerf, V. "A Proposal for TCP Version 3.1 Header Format,"
>           Advanced Research Projects Agency, IEN 26, 14 February 1978.
>    [46]   Postel, J. "Specification of Internetwork Transmission Control
>           Protocol -- Version 4," IEN-55, USC-Information Sciences
>           Institute, September 1978.
>
>Note that both ref 43 and 45 claim to be IEN 26! The second should probably be
>IEN 27. ref 42 might be IEN 28.
>
>
>(I'm CC'ing this to the Internet-History list so that any responses will be
>archived for future historical use; apologies to anyone who gets two copies
>as a result.)
>
>	Noel




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