[Chapter-delegates] Unfortunately, the Internet Impact Toolkit is unsound

[vinton cerf]

Dave, I think you may have at least one thing wrong.

You can't interconnect a bunch of networks and expect anything to work if
there isn't something they have in common. Sometimes that's up at the
application layer - so we used to have email gateways but could not do
remote login or ftp or the many other things we do over TCP/IP or UDP/IP.
The common use of IP is key to the Internet's ability to interconnect
multiple packet-switched networks. Bob Kahn's DOA assumes IP connectivity
but is not dependent on DNS (although it can use DNS).

vint


On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 12:30 PM Dave Burstein via Chapter-delegates <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> People
>
> Columbia Professor Eli Noam, perhaps the Internet's most respected public
> voice, pointed out that there was no reason what's valuable about the
> Internet required a single system. So long as there was robust
> interconnection, there could be many "Internets" with different internal
> systems.
>
> There is absolutely no reason the future Internet requires "a Common
> Protocol," "a Single Distributed Routing System," or "Common Global
> Identifiers"* I think those are good ideas, but can respect those who
> disagree. *
>
> Bob Kahn, a founder of ISOC, supports DOA/DONA, a "digital object
> architecture." We discuss some of its pros and cons at
> https://www.internetsociety.org/resources/doc/2016/overview-of-the-digital-object-architecture-doa/
>
> In another example, Verizon, backed by Deutsche Telekom, Telefonica, the
> Koreans, and the Chinese want "deterministic networking" designed to
> guarantee performance. (Like Vint and Andrew, I strongly oppose that and
> was one of the few to speak up at the ITU FG2030. It is likely to dominate
> our networks in 5-10 years, like it or not.)
>
> I might prefer a system that did a better job protecting my privacy from
> government and corporate spying. Others might prefer a system that did a
> better job detecting and blocking pornography.
> ----------------
>
> To be effective, we need to begin with the facts on the ground. In almost
> all countries, the Internet is dominated by a handful of companies. I think
> we can all agree on this, even if we disagree on the right response.
>
> 9 of 13 of our Board are from the U.S., as are many of our senior staff.
> To be effective, we should clearly take positions that benefit Internet
> users around the world.  We must be very careful not to take positions that
> protect U.S. giant companies.
>
> Our policy lead has said ISOC is a place for "Like-minded individuals,"
> backed by our current and previous CEO. We've taken that too far, to the
> point we are preaching to the converted and not representing the interests
> of most people on the Internet.
>
> Andrew, Gonzalo - It's your job to do better.
>
>
>
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