[Chapter-delegates] ISOC @ ICANN 61

Carlos Raul Gutierrez crg at isoc-cr.org
Mon Mar 12 08:38:18 PDT 2018


Or both , like in our case of the Costa Rica Chapter and it has opened many
opportunities to network in the community as a whole.

Thank very much John for the clarification

Carlos Raúl GUTIERREZ
Member of the GNSO COUNCIL
ICANN
Apartado 1571-1000
San José COSTA RICA

On Mar 12, 2018 10:35, "John More" <morej1 at mac.com> wrote:

> ISOC Chapters are here as At-Large Structures (ALSes) or involved in the
> Non-Profit Organizations Council (NPOC).
>
> John More
> ISOC-DC
>
> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:59 AM, Christian de Larrinaga <cdel at firsthand.net>
> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to understand why an ISOC chapter would represent itself at
> an ICANN meeting other than act as a local host community?
>
>
>
> Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> what lowers ISOC's participation stature in the ICANN environment is
> lack of adhesion to principles (if it happens), lack of coherence
> among representatives/members (if it happens), and low quality of
> contributions (if it happens.)
>
> I fully agree with others that a SIG is not the only option, maybe not
> even the best; but then, we must make ourselves responsible for
> coordination among... our very own selves!
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Sivasubramanian M
> <6.Internet at gmail.com <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com <6.Internet at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>    On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Alejandro Pisanty
>    <apisanty at gmail.com <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com <apisanty at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
>
>        Hi,
>
>        as some of us may remember, the first ISOC-in-ICANN meetings
>        (2009) had as a clear objective the avoidance of surprises
>        among us. We would often find that some chapters were
>        supporting opposed options in ICANN policy. Coordination would
>        be good but surprise avoidance is not a bad second best. For
>        that purpose, an informal conversation is not bad but an
>        agenda is much better.
>
>        At this ICANN meeting there is a big chance of ISOC losing
>        ground because of insuffcient coordination on key issues like
>        GDPR and whois, where we can expect European chapters to hold
>        a strong pro-GDPR position, and a wider spectrum among others.
>        In general in ICANN ISOC chapters should, IMO, strive for
>        focus on technical grounding of all decisions; prioritizing
>        the stable, secure, robust and resilient operation of the DNS
>        and other coordinated identifier systems, esp. vis-a-vis
>        market creation; fight against mission creep (unnecessary
>        expansion of ICANN activities beyond its mission); support
>        transparency of all organizations (not only ICANN Board and
>        staff but for example At Large member organizations); and
>        contribute to organizational clarity (including: ICANN's
>        reserves and budget; Reviews; the broader consequences of the
>        IANA transition and the restructuring that has been following it.)
>
>        A very good example of what can go wrong is being actively
>        provided in LACRALO.
>
>
>
>
>
>        Maybe an ICANN-interest SIG of ISOC chapters would be the
>        necessary organizational form we need to adopt.
>
>
>
>    ​ I don't feel that it is right to form this as an interest group
>    or SIG. That actually lowers the ISOC participation stature.​
>
>
>
>
>        Please contact me offlist if there is any interest to follow
>        up on such an idea. The name and focus does not have to be
>        "ICANN" as we have more-general concerns included in all of
>        the above.
>
>        Yours,
>
>        Alejandro Pisanty
>
>        I will not be attending the meeting but will gladly convey
>        information about an ISOC chapters-and-members meeting to our
>        Chair and members so they can attend.
>
>        On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Sivasubramanian M
>        <6.Internet at gmail.com <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com
> <6.Internet at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
>            Hello
>
>
>            I am from ISOC India Chennai Chapter.  I feel that we
>            should have our usual ISOC at ICANN meeting, without a set
>            pattern of a formal meeting, but as a meeting that
>            encourages an informal conversation.
>
>
>            Sivasubramanian M
>
>            On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Sarah Kiden
>            <skiden at gmail.com <mailto:skiden at gmail.com <skiden at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
>
>                SIG Women and ISOC Uganda also represented.
>
>                Yes, we need a meet and greet.
>
>                Thanks,
>
>                Sarah
>
>                On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 17:26 Susannah Gray
>                <susannah.gray at gmail.com
>                <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com <susannah.gray at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
>
>
>                    On 10/03/2018 17:21, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>
>                    Some Nigeria Chapter members(like myself) are
>                    here as well, will be good to meet (if there is
>                    an agenda)
>
>                    - At this late stage I assume it will need to be
>                    more of a social/meet 'n greet type thing!
>
>                    Susannah
>
>
>                    Regards
>
>                    On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olga Cavalli
>                    <olgacavalli at gmail.com
>                    <mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com <olgacavalli at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
>
>                        Hi,
>                        some members of the ISOC Argentina chapter we
>                        are here as well.
>
>                        Lets organize someting!!
>
>                        Proposals?
>
>                        best
>                        Olga
>
>                        2018-03-10 16:49 GMT-04:00 Susannah Gray
>                        <susannah.gray at gmail.com
>                        <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com
> <susannah.gray at gmail.com>>>:
>
>                            I'm here from the SF Bay Area Chapter, as
>                            is Leah Symekher (previous President,
>                            current project leader).
>
>                            It would be great to organise an informal
>                            meeting at some point so we can all say
>                            hi to each other!
>
>                            Susannah
>
>                            --
>                            President
>                            San Francisco Bay Area Internet Society
>                            Chapter
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>
>
>                            On 10/03/2018 16:24, Lance Hinds wrote:
>
>                            The Interim Chair and Secretary of
>                            ISOC-Guyana are currently in attendance
>                            at ICANN61
>
>                            Best regards
>
>                            On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 3:47 PM Hans
>                            Petter Holen <hph at oslo.net
>                            <mailto:hph at oslo.net <hph at oslo.net>>> wrote:
>
>                                The treasurer of ISOC Norway Chapter
>                                will be there.
>
>                                -hph
>
>                                On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 at 14:45, Flávio
>                                Rech Wagner <flavio at inf.ufrgs.br
>                                <mailto:flavio at inf.ufrgs.br
> <flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>>> wrote:
>
>                                    I am the President of the Brazil
>                                    Chapter and I am also here in
>                                    San Juan.
>                                    Also Demi Getschko, the
>                                    Vice-President of our Chapter,
>                                    is here.
>
>                                    Best,
>
>                                    Flavio
>
>
>                                    Às 16:41 de 10/03/2018,
>                                    Christine Arida escreveu:
>
> Hello all,
> I am from the Chapter of Egypt
>
>                                    (board member) and am here in
>                                    San Juan attending ICANN61 ..
>
> Best,
> Christine Arida
>
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>                                    [Chapter-delegates] ISOC @ ICANN 61
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>
> From Internet of Food SIG
>
>                                    leadership, I am at ICANN61.
>
>
>    Patrik
>
> On 10 Mar 2018, at 15:06, Yrjö
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>                                    Länsipuro wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
>
> From the Finnish Chapter
>
>                                    there are at least Juhani
>                                    Juselius (the new President) and
>                                    myself attending.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> Yrjö
>
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> Sent: Saturday, March 10,
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>                                    2018 8:49 PM
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> To: Layal Jebran
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>                                    [Chapter-delegates] ISOC @ ICANN 61
>
>
> Hi
> A few board members are
>
>                                    attending.
>
> Olga, Glenn, John Levine and
>
>                                    Alice
>
>
> Please outreach to us
>
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>
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> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 1:30
>
>                                    PM, Layal Jebran
>                                    <me at layaljebran.com
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> <me at layaljebran.com>>>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I’m also attending as an
>
>                                    ICANN fellow. I don’t believe
>                                    there’s an ISOC social. But we
>                                    can all meet, there are so many
>                                    ISOC-ers here.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 9, 2018, at 17:16,
>
>                                    JOHN MORE <morej1 at mac.com
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>
>
> ISOC-DC also has a number
>
>                                    attending. No social I am aware of.
>
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 9, 2018, at 5:10 PM,
>
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> <joly at punkcast.com>>>> wrote:
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>
>
> ISOC-NY has three members
>
>                                    participating (that I know of)
>                                    in ICANN 61 - Avri Doria, Greg
>                                    Shatan, and Olivier Crepin-Leblonde.
>
>
> Will there be an ISOC social?
>
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