[Chapter-delegates] ISOC @ ICANN 61
John More
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Mon Mar 12 08:35:03 PDT 2018
ISOC Chapters are here as At-Large Structures (ALSes) or involved in the Non-Profit Organizations Council (NPOC).
John More
ISOC-DC
> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:59 AM, Christian de Larrinaga <cdel at firsthand.net> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to understand why an ISOC chapter would represent itself at
> an ICANN meeting other than act as a local host community?
>
>
>
> Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> what lowers ISOC's participation stature in the ICANN environment is
>> lack of adhesion to principles (if it happens), lack of coherence
>> among representatives/members (if it happens), and low quality of
>> contributions (if it happens.)
>>
>> I fully agree with others that a SIG is not the only option, maybe not
>> even the best; but then, we must make ourselves responsible for
>> coordination among... our very own selves!
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Sivasubramanian M
>> <6.Internet at gmail.com <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com> <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Alejandro Pisanty
>> <apisanty at gmail.com <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com> <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> as some of us may remember, the first ISOC-in-ICANN meetings
>> (2009) had as a clear objective the avoidance of surprises
>> among us. We would often find that some chapters were
>> supporting opposed options in ICANN policy. Coordination would
>> be good but surprise avoidance is not a bad second best. For
>> that purpose, an informal conversation is not bad but an
>> agenda is much better.
>>
>> At this ICANN meeting there is a big chance of ISOC losing
>> ground because of insuffcient coordination on key issues like
>> GDPR and whois, where we can expect European chapters to hold
>> a strong pro-GDPR position, and a wider spectrum among others.
>> In general in ICANN ISOC chapters should, IMO, strive for
>> focus on technical grounding of all decisions; prioritizing
>> the stable, secure, robust and resilient operation of the DNS
>> and other coordinated identifier systems, esp. vis-a-vis
>> market creation; fight against mission creep (unnecessary
>> expansion of ICANN activities beyond its mission); support
>> transparency of all organizations (not only ICANN Board and
>> staff but for example At Large member organizations); and
>> contribute to organizational clarity (including: ICANN's
>> reserves and budget; Reviews; the broader consequences of the
>> IANA transition and the restructuring that has been following it.)
>>
>> A very good example of what can go wrong is being actively
>> provided in LACRALO.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe an ICANN-interest SIG of ISOC chapters would be the
>> necessary organizational form we need to adopt.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't feel that it is right to form this as an interest group
>> or SIG. That actually lowers the ISOC participation stature.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please contact me offlist if there is any interest to follow
>> up on such an idea. The name and focus does not have to be
>> "ICANN" as we have more-general concerns included in all of
>> the above.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>> I will not be attending the meeting but will gladly convey
>> information about an ISOC chapters-and-members meeting to our
>> Chair and members so they can attend.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Sivasubramanian M
>> <6.Internet at gmail.com <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com> <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> I am from ISOC India Chennai Chapter. I feel that we
>> should have our usual ISOC at ICANN meeting, without a set
>> pattern of a formal meeting, but as a meeting that
>> encourages an informal conversation.
>>
>>
>> Sivasubramanian M
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Sarah Kiden
>> <skiden at gmail.com <mailto:skiden at gmail.com> <mailto:skiden at gmail.com <mailto:skiden at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> SIG Women and ISOC Uganda also represented.
>>
>> Yes, we need a meet and greet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 17:26 Susannah Gray
>> <susannah.gray at gmail.com <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/03/2018 17:21, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>>> Some Nigeria Chapter members(like myself) are
>>> here as well, will be good to meet (if there is
>>> an agenda)
>> - At this late stage I assume it will need to be
>> more of a social/meet 'n greet type thing!
>>
>> Susannah
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olga Cavalli
>>> <olgacavalli at gmail.com <mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com <mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> some members of the ISOC Argentina chapter we
>>> are here as well.
>>>
>>> Lets organize someting!!
>>>
>>> Proposals?
>>>
>>> best
>>> Olga
>>>
>>> 2018-03-10 16:49 GMT-04:00 Susannah Gray
>>> <susannah.gray at gmail.com <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>>>:
>>>
>>> I'm here from the SF Bay Area Chapter, as
>>> is Leah Symekher (previous President,
>>> current project leader).
>>>
>>> It would be great to organise an informal
>>> meeting at some point so we can all say
>>> hi to each other!
>>>
>>> Susannah
>>>
>>> --
>>> President
>>> San Francisco Bay Area Internet Society
>>> Chapter
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/03/2018 16:24, Lance Hinds wrote:
>>>> The Interim Chair and Secretary of
>>>> ISOC-Guyana are currently in attendance
>>>> at ICANN61
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 3:47 PM Hans
>>>> Petter Holen <hph at oslo.net <mailto:hph at oslo.net>
>>>> <mailto:hph at oslo.net <mailto:hph at oslo.net>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The treasurer of ISOC Norway Chapter
>>>> will be there.
>>>>
>>>> -hph
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 at 14:45, Flávio
>>>> Rech Wagner <flavio at inf.ufrgs.br <mailto:flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>
>>>> <mailto:flavio at inf.ufrgs.br <mailto:flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am the President of the Brazil
>>>> Chapter and I am also here in
>>>> San Juan.
>>>> Also Demi Getschko, the
>>>> Vice-President of our Chapter,
>>>> is here.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Flavio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Às 16:41 de 10/03/2018,
>>>> Christine Arida escreveu:
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> I am from the Chapter of Egypt
>>>> (board member) and am here in
>>>> San Juan attending ICANN61 ..
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Christine Arida
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Chapter-delegates
>>>> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>
>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>>]
>>>> On Behalf Of Patrik Fältström
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018
>>>> 9:35 PM
>>>>> To: Yrjö Länsipuro
>>>> <yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com <mailto:yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com <mailto:yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com>>>
>>>>> Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates
>>>> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>> [Chapter-delegates] ISOC @ ICANN 61
>>>>>
>>>>> From Internet of Food SIG
>>>> leadership, I am at ICANN61.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrik
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10 Mar 2018, at 15:06, Yrjö
>>>> Länsipuro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From the Finnish Chapter
>>>> there are at least Juhani
>>>> Juselius (the new President) and
>>>> myself attending.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yrjö
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Chapter-delegates
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>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>>>
>>>> on
>>>>>> behalf of Glenn McKnight
>>>> <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10,
>>>> 2018 8:49 PM
>>>>>> To: Layal Jebran
>>>>>> Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates
>>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>> [Chapter-delegates] ISOC @ ICANN 61
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> A few board members are
>>>> attending.
>>>>>> Olga, Glenn, John Levine and
>>>> Alice
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please outreach to us
>>>>>>
>>>>>> G
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glenn McKnight
>>>>>> NARALO Secretariat
>>>>>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>><mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>>
>>>>>> skype gmcknight
>>>>>> twitter gmcknight
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>>>> <tel:02898%20306%20259 <tel:02898%20306%20259>>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 1:30
>>>> PM, Layal Jebran
>>>> <me at layaljebran.com <mailto:me at layaljebran.com>
>>>> <mailto:me at layaljebran.com <mailto:me at layaljebran.com>><mailto:me at layaljebran.com <mailto:me at layaljebran.com>
>>>> <mailto:me at layaljebran.com <mailto:me at layaljebran.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m also attending as an
>>>> ICANN fellow. I don’t believe
>>>> there’s an ISOC social. But we
>>>> can all meet, there are so many
>>>> ISOC-ers here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 17:16,
>>>> JOHN MORE <morej1 at mac.com <mailto:morej1 at mac.com>
>>>> <mailto:morej1 at mac.com <mailto:morej1 at mac.com>><mailto:morej1 at mac.com <mailto:morej1 at mac.com>
>>>> <mailto:morej1 at mac.com <mailto:morej1 at mac.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ISOC-DC also has a number
>>>> attending. No social I am aware of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 5:10 PM,
>>>> Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>
>>>> <mailto:joly at punkcast.com <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>><mailto:joly at punkcast.com <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>
>>>> <mailto:joly at punkcast.com <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ISOC-NY has three members
>>>> participating (that I know of)
>>>> in ICANN 61 - Avri Doria, Greg
>>>> Shatan, and Olivier Crepin-Leblonde.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will there be an ISOC social?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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