[Chapter-delegates] ISOC @ ICANN 61
Susannah Gray
susannah.gray at gmail.com
Mon Mar 12 08:46:47 PDT 2018
On 12/03/2018 11:35, John More wrote:
> ISOC Chapters are here as At-Large Structures (ALSes) or involved in
> the Non-Profit Organizations Council (NPOC).
>
- Or as part of their day-to-jobs or involvement in other SO/ACs. I
don't think many people come to an ICANN meeting purely to represent
their Chapter.
Thanks,
Susannah
> John More
> ISOC-DC
>
>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:59 AM, Christian de Larrinaga
>> <cdel at firsthand.net <mailto:cdel at firsthand.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to understand why an ISOC chapter would represent itself at
>> an ICANN meeting other than act as a local host community?
>>
>>
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> what lowers ISOC's participation stature in the ICANN environment is
>>> lack of adhesion to principles (if it happens), lack of coherence
>>> among representatives/members (if it happens), and low quality of
>>> contributions (if it happens.)
>>>
>>> I fully agree with others that a SIG is not the only option, maybe not
>>> even the best; but then, we must make ourselves responsible for
>>> coordination among... our very own selves!
>>>
>>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Sivasubramanian M
>>> <6.Internet at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com><mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Alejandro Pisanty
>>> <apisanty at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com><mailto:apisanty at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> as some of us may remember, the first ISOC-in-ICANN meetings
>>> (2009) had as a clear objective the avoidance of surprises
>>> among us. We would often find that some chapters were
>>> supporting opposed options in ICANN policy. Coordination would
>>> be good but surprise avoidance is not a bad second best. For
>>> that purpose, an informal conversation is not bad but an
>>> agenda is much better.
>>>
>>> At this ICANN meeting there is a big chance of ISOC losing
>>> ground because of insuffcient coordination on key issues like
>>> GDPR and whois, where we can expect European chapters to hold
>>> a strong pro-GDPR position, and a wider spectrum among others.
>>> In general in ICANN ISOC chapters should, IMO, strive for
>>> focus on technical grounding of all decisions; prioritizing
>>> the stable, secure, robust and resilient operation of the DNS
>>> and other coordinated identifier systems, esp. vis-a-vis
>>> market creation; fight against mission creep (unnecessary
>>> expansion of ICANN activities beyond its mission); support
>>> transparency of all organizations (not only ICANN Board and
>>> staff but for example At Large member organizations); and
>>> contribute to organizational clarity (including: ICANN's
>>> reserves and budget; Reviews; the broader consequences of the
>>> IANA transition and the restructuring that has been following
>>> it.)
>>>
>>> A very good example of what can go wrong is being actively
>>> provided in LACRALO.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe an ICANN-interest SIG of ISOC chapters would be the
>>> necessary organizational form we need to adopt.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't feel that it is right to form this as an interest group
>>> or SIG. That actually lowers the ISOC participation stature.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please contact me offlist if there is any interest to follow
>>> up on such an idea. The name and focus does not have to be
>>> "ICANN" as we have more-general concerns included in all of
>>> the above.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>>
>>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>>
>>> I will not be attending the meeting but will gladly convey
>>> information about an ISOC chapters-and-members meeting to our
>>> Chair and members so they can attend.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Sivasubramanian M
>>> <6.Internet at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com><mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>>
>>> I am from ISOC India Chennai Chapter. I feel that we
>>> should have our usual ISOC at ICANN meeting, without a set
>>> pattern of a formal meeting, but as a meeting that
>>> encourages an informal conversation.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Sarah Kiden
>>> <skiden at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:skiden at gmail.com><mailto:skiden at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> SIG Women and ISOC Uganda also represented.
>>>
>>> Yes, we need a meet and greet.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Sarah
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 17:26 Susannah Gray
>>> <susannah.gray at gmail.com <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/03/2018 17:21, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>>>> Some Nigeria Chapter members(like myself) are
>>>> here as well, will be good to meet (if there is
>>>> an agenda)
>>> - At this late stage I assume it will need to be
>>> more of a social/meet 'n greet type thing!
>>>
>>> Susannah
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olga Cavalli
>>>> <olgacavalli at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> some members of the ISOC Argentina chapter we
>>>> are here as well.
>>>>
>>>> Lets organize someting!!
>>>>
>>>> Proposals?
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>> Olga
>>>>
>>>> 2018-03-10 16:49 GMT-04:00 Susannah Gray
>>>> <susannah.gray at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>>:
>>>>
>>>> I'm here from the SF Bay Area Chapter, as
>>>> is Leah Symekher (previous President,
>>>> current project leader).
>>>>
>>>> It would be great to organise an informal
>>>> meeting at some point so we can all say
>>>> hi to each other!
>>>>
>>>> Susannah
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> President
>>>> San Francisco Bay Area Internet Society
>>>> Chapter
>>>> www.sfbayisoc.org
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/03/2018 16:24, Lance Hinds wrote:
>>>>> The Interim Chair and Secretary of
>>>>> ISOC-Guyana are currently in attendance
>>>>> at ICANN61
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 3:47 PM Hans
>>>>> Petter Holen <hph at oslo.net
>>>>> <mailto:hph at oslo.net>
>>>>> <mailto:hph at oslo.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The treasurer of ISOC Norway Chapter
>>>>> will be there.
>>>>>
>>>>> -hph
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 at 14:45, Flávio
>>>>> Rech Wagner <flavio at inf.ufrgs.br
>>>>> <mailto:flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>
>>>>> <mailto:flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am the President of the Brazil
>>>>> Chapter and I am also here in
>>>>> San Juan.
>>>>> Also Demi Getschko, the
>>>>> Vice-President of our Chapter,
>>>>> is here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Flavio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Às 16:41 de 10/03/2018,
>>>>> Christine Arida escreveu:
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> I am from the Chapter of Egypt
>>>>> (board member) and am here in
>>>>> San Juan attending ICANN61 ..
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Christine Arida
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Chapter-delegates
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>>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Patrik Fältström
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018
>>>>> 9:35 PM
>>>>>> To: Yrjö Länsipuro
>>>>> <yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com
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>>>>> <mailto:yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com>>
>>>>>> Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates
>>>>> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
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>>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>>> [Chapter-delegates] ISOC @ ICANN 61
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From Internet of Food SIG
>>>>> leadership, I am at ICANN61.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10 Mar 2018, at 15:06, Yrjö
>>>>> Länsipuro wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From the Finnish Chapter
>>>>> there are at least Juhani
>>>>> Juselius (the new President) and
>>>>> myself attending.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yrjö
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Chapter-delegates
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>>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>>
>>>>> on
>>>>>>> behalf of Glenn McKnight
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>>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10,
>>>>> 2018 8:49 PM
>>>>>>> To: Layal Jebran
>>>>>>> Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates
>>>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>>> [Chapter-delegates] ISOC @ ICANN 61
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>> A few board members are
>>>>> attending.
>>>>>>> Olga, Glenn, John Levine and
>>>>> Alice
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please outreach to us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> G
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glenn McKnight
>>>>>>> NARALO Secretariat
>>>>>>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com><mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> skype gmcknight
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>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 1:30
>>>>> PM, Layal Jebran
>>>>> <me at layaljebran.com
>>>>> <mailto:me at layaljebran.com>
>>>>> <mailto:me at layaljebran.com><mailto:me at layaljebran.com
>>>>> <mailto:me at layaljebran.com>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m also attending as an
>>>>> ICANN fellow. I don’t believe
>>>>> there’s an ISOC social. But we
>>>>> can all meet, there are so many
>>>>> ISOC-ers here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 17:16,
>>>>> JOHN MORE <morej1 at mac.com
>>>>> <mailto:morej1 at mac.com>
>>>>> <mailto:morej1 at mac.com><mailto:morej1 at mac.com
>>>>> <mailto:morej1 at mac.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ISOC-DC also has a number
>>>>> attending. No social I am aware of.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 5:10 PM,
>>>>> Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com
>>>>> <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>
>>>>> <mailto:joly at punkcast.com><mailto:joly at punkcast.com
>>>>> <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ISOC-NY has three members
>>>>> participating (that I know of)
>>>>> in ICANN 61 - Avri Doria, Greg
>>>>> Shatan, and Olivier
>>>>> Crepin-Leblonde.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will there be an ISOC social?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> Skype:punkcast <skype:punkcast>
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