[Chapter-delegates] ISOC @ ICANN 61
Christian de Larrinaga
cdel at firsthand.net
Mon Mar 12 00:59:03 PDT 2018
I'm trying to understand why an ISOC chapter would represent itself at
an ICANN meeting other than act as a local host community?
Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
> Hi,
>
> what lowers ISOC's participation stature in the ICANN environment is
> lack of adhesion to principles (if it happens), lack of coherence
> among representatives/members (if it happens), and low quality of
> contributions (if it happens.)
>
> I fully agree with others that a SIG is not the only option, maybe not
> even the best; but then, we must make ourselves responsible for
> coordination among... our very own selves!
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Sivasubramanian M
> <6.Internet at gmail.com <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Alejandro Pisanty
> <apisanty at gmail.com <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> as some of us may remember, the first ISOC-in-ICANN meetings
> (2009) had as a clear objective the avoidance of surprises
> among us. We would often find that some chapters were
> supporting opposed options in ICANN policy. Coordination would
> be good but surprise avoidance is not a bad second best. For
> that purpose, an informal conversation is not bad but an
> agenda is much better.
>
> At this ICANN meeting there is a big chance of ISOC losing
> ground because of insuffcient coordination on key issues like
> GDPR and whois, where we can expect European chapters to hold
> a strong pro-GDPR position, and a wider spectrum among others.
> In general in ICANN ISOC chapters should, IMO, strive for
> focus on technical grounding of all decisions; prioritizing
> the stable, secure, robust and resilient operation of the DNS
> and other coordinated identifier systems, esp. vis-a-vis
> market creation; fight against mission creep (unnecessary
> expansion of ICANN activities beyond its mission); support
> transparency of all organizations (not only ICANN Board and
> staff but for example At Large member organizations); and
> contribute to organizational clarity (including: ICANN's
> reserves and budget; Reviews; the broader consequences of the
> IANA transition and the restructuring that has been following it.)
>
> A very good example of what can go wrong is being actively
> provided in LACRALO.
>
>
>
>
>
> Maybe an ICANN-interest SIG of ISOC chapters would be the
> necessary organizational form we need to adopt.
>
>
>
> I don't feel that it is right to form this as an interest group
> or SIG. That actually lowers the ISOC participation stature.
>
>
>
>
> Please contact me offlist if there is any interest to follow
> up on such an idea. The name and focus does not have to be
> "ICANN" as we have more-general concerns included in all of
> the above.
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
> I will not be attending the meeting but will gladly convey
> information about an ISOC chapters-and-members meeting to our
> Chair and members so they can attend.
>
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Sivasubramanian M
> <6.Internet at gmail.com <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
>
> I am from ISOC India Chennai Chapter. I feel that we
> should have our usual ISOC at ICANN meeting, without a set
> pattern of a formal meeting, but as a meeting that
> encourages an informal conversation.
>
>
> Sivasubramanian M
>
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Sarah Kiden
> <skiden at gmail.com <mailto:skiden at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> SIG Women and ISOC Uganda also represented.
>
> Yes, we need a meet and greet.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sarah
>
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 17:26 Susannah Gray
> <susannah.gray at gmail.com
> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> On 10/03/2018 17:21, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>> Some Nigeria Chapter members(like myself) are
>> here as well, will be good to meet (if there is
>> an agenda)
> - At this late stage I assume it will need to be
> more of a social/meet 'n greet type thing!
>
> Susannah
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olga Cavalli
>> <olgacavalli at gmail.com
>> <mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> some members of the ISOC Argentina chapter we
>> are here as well.
>>
>> Lets organize someting!!
>>
>> Proposals?
>>
>> best
>> Olga
>>
>> 2018-03-10 16:49 GMT-04:00 Susannah Gray
>> <susannah.gray at gmail.com
>> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> I'm here from the SF Bay Area Chapter, as
>> is Leah Symekher (previous President,
>> current project leader).
>>
>> It would be great to organise an informal
>> meeting at some point so we can all say
>> hi to each other!
>>
>> Susannah
>>
>> --
>> President
>> San Francisco Bay Area Internet Society
>> Chapter
>> www.sfbayisoc.org <http://www.sfbayisoc.org>
>>
>>
>> On 10/03/2018 16:24, Lance Hinds wrote:
>>> The Interim Chair and Secretary of
>>> ISOC-Guyana are currently in attendance
>>> at ICANN61
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 3:47 PM Hans
>>> Petter Holen <hph at oslo.net
>>> <mailto:hph at oslo.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The treasurer of ISOC Norway Chapter
>>> will be there.
>>>
>>> -hph
>>>
>>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 at 14:45, Flávio
>>> Rech Wagner <flavio at inf.ufrgs.br
>>> <mailto:flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am the President of the Brazil
>>> Chapter and I am also here in
>>> San Juan.
>>> Also Demi Getschko, the
>>> Vice-President of our Chapter,
>>> is here.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Flavio
>>>
>>>
>>> Às 16:41 de 10/03/2018,
>>> Christine Arida escreveu:
>>> > Hello all,
>>> > I am from the Chapter of Egypt
>>> (board member) and am here in
>>> San Juan attending ICANN61 ..
>>> > Best,
>>> > Christine Arida
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Chapter-delegates
>>> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>]
>>> On Behalf Of Patrik Fältström
>>> > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018
>>> 9:35 PM
>>> > To: Yrjö Länsipuro
>>> <yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com
>>> <mailto:yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com>>
>>> > Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates
>>> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>>
>>> > Subject: Re:
>>> [Chapter-delegates] ISOC @ ICANN 61
>>> >
>>> > From Internet of Food SIG
>>> leadership, I am at ICANN61.
>>> >
>>> > Patrik
>>> >
>>> > On 10 Mar 2018, at 15:06, Yrjö
>>> Länsipuro wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From the Finnish Chapter
>>> there are at least Juhani
>>> Juselius (the new President) and
>>> myself attending.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Best,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Yrjö
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ________________________________
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>>> on
>>> >> behalf of Glenn McKnight
>>> <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>
>>> >> Sent: Saturday, March 10,
>>> 2018 8:49 PM
>>> >> To: Layal Jebran
>>> >> Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates
>>> >> Subject: Re:
>>> [Chapter-delegates] ISOC @ ICANN 61
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi
>>> >> A few board members are
>>> attending.
>>> >> Olga, Glenn, John Levine and
>>> Alice
>>> >>
>>> >> Please outreach to us
>>> >>
>>> >> G
>>> >>
>>> >> Glenn McKnight
>>> >> NARALO Secretariat
>>> >> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com><mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>
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>>> >> .
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 1:30
>>> PM, Layal Jebran
>>> <me at layaljebran.com
>>> <mailto:me at layaljebran.com><mailto:me at layaljebran.com
>>> <mailto:me at layaljebran.com>>> wrote:
>>> >> Hello,
>>> >>
>>> >> I’m also attending as an
>>> ICANN fellow. I don’t believe
>>> there’s an ISOC social. But we
>>> can all meet, there are so many
>>> ISOC-ers here.
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mar 9, 2018, at 17:16,
>>> JOHN MORE <morej1 at mac.com
>>> <mailto:morej1 at mac.com><mailto:morej1 at mac.com
>>> <mailto:morej1 at mac.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> ISOC-DC also has a number
>>> attending. No social I am aware of.
>>> >>
>>> >> John
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mar 9, 2018, at 5:10 PM,
>>> Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com
>>> <mailto:joly at punkcast.com><mailto:joly at punkcast.com
>>> <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ISOC-NY has three members
>>> participating (that I know of)
>>> in ICANN 61 - Avri Doria, Greg
>>> Shatan, and Olivier Crepin-Leblonde.
>>> >>
>>> >> Will there be an ISOC social?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
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