[Chapter-delegates] How do we incorporate China and other countries that are different?
Dave Burstein
daveb at dslprime.com
Sun Feb 21 20:43:20 PST 2016
Alejandro
No mainland Chinese are on the board now and I do not believe there have
been any at least since 2010. I should have said "mainland Chinese" but the
primary point stands.
No disrespect for Kuo-Wei Wu or the many other honorable members of the
ICANN board, but it's easy to see who is and is not represented.
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On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dave,
>
> though this may puncture a balloon, there has been at least one Chinese
> citizen, national and resident in the ICANN Board.
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Dave Burstein <daveb at dslprime.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Kathy and folk, with respect
>>
>> Using the name Internet Society of CHina is tasteless, but there are much
>> more important issues in this discussion.
>>
>> China has twice as many Internet users as the U.S. and the gap is growing
>> at 5-8M users per year. Africa is about to pass 315M Internet users, the
>> entire population of the United States. (Cisco data.) Cheap smartphones are
>> bringing two *billion* more people to the Internet. We all think that's
>> a great thing.
>>
>> *I do not believe Internet governance (or ISOC) can be effective with the
>> majority of world Internet users excluded.* As Ambassador Phil Verveer
>> said to me the night of the ITU WCIT vote, "We must build bridges."
>>
>> *It's time for a Nixon Goes to China move for the Internet. *Kathy, Vint
>> or whoever is leading us should be finding a way to work with all nations.
>> Bob Kahn, an Internet Society founder, might be one natural link. He spoke
>> at that conference in China, as did several other Internet Society
>> supporters.
>>
>> I'm not blind to how many people starved in the 1950's in China, what
>> happened at Tiananmen Square, or the speech limitations in China today. I'm
>> also not blind to what America did in Vietnam or the $billions being spent
>> to buy the U.S. elections.
>>
>> I'm sure we all can make lawyer-like arguments here. But it's missing the
>> key issue. We need to solve the North-South divide about the Internet.
>>
>> In Dubai at the WCIT a few hours before that vote, I asked Larry
>> Strickling why the U.S. was fighting so hard over what seemed to me some
>> very minor issues, at most of symbolic value. He looked at me and asked,
>> "Dave, do you want Russia or China to be running the Internet?" We both
>> went back to work.
>>
>> Later, I realized I should have said, "Of course I want Russia and China
>> to have a meaningful role. If we continue to exclude them, ultimately the
>> Internet will split."
>>
>> I did not know at that time that no Chinese were on the Board of ICANN
>> because that would not be acceptable to the U.S.
>>
>> The Internet Society should be leading the way. Excluding China - and so
>> many others - I believe will fail.
>>
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>>
>> Which doesn't say anything about whether this is the right way to handle
>> who is a civil society group. That's a side issue. The big question is
>> whether the ICANN board and the decision makers of all important groups
>> here see more than one side of the North South divide.
>>
>> Dave Burstein.
>>
>>
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