[Chapter-delegates] How do we incorporate China and other countries that are different?

[Alejandro Pisanty]

Dave,

though this may puncture a balloon, there has been at least one Chinese
citizen, national and resident in the ICANN Board.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Dave Burstein <daveb at dslprime.com> wrote:

> Kathy and folk, with respect
>
> Using the name Internet Society of CHina is tasteless, but there are much
> more important issues in this discussion.
>
> China has twice as many Internet users as the U.S. and the gap is growing
> at 5-8M users per year. Africa is about to pass 315M Internet users, the
> entire population of the United States. (Cisco data.) Cheap smartphones are
> bringing two *billion* more people to the Internet. We all think that's a
> great thing.
>
> *I do not believe Internet governance (or ISOC) can be effective with the
> majority of world Internet users excluded.* As Ambassador Phil Verveer
> said to me the night of the ITU WCIT vote, "We must build bridges."
>
> *It's time for a Nixon Goes to China move for the Internet. *Kathy, Vint
> or whoever is leading us should be finding a way to work with all nations.
> Bob Kahn, an Internet Society founder, might be one natural link. He spoke
> at that conference in China, as did several other Internet Society
> supporters.
>
> I'm not blind to how many people starved in the 1950's in China, what
> happened at Tiananmen Square, or the speech limitations in China today. I'm
> also not blind to what America did in Vietnam or the $billions being spent
> to buy the U.S. elections.
>
> I'm sure we all can make lawyer-like arguments here. But it's missing the
> key issue. We need to solve the North-South divide about the Internet.
>
> In Dubai at the WCIT a few hours before that vote, I asked Larry
> Strickling why the U.S. was fighting so hard over what seemed to me some
> very minor issues, at most of symbolic value. He looked at me and asked,
> "Dave, do you want Russia or China to be running the Internet?" We both
> went back to work.
>
> Later, I realized I should have said, "Of course I want Russia and China
> to have a meaningful role. If we continue to exclude them, ultimately the
> Internet will split."
>
> I did not know at that time that no Chinese were on the Board of ICANN
> because that would not be acceptable to the U.S.
>
> The Internet Society should be leading the way. Excluding China - and so
> many others - I believe will fail.
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> Which doesn't say anything about whether this is the right way to handle
> who is a civil society group. That's a side issue. The big question is
> whether the ICANN board and the decision makers of all important groups
> here see more than one side of the North South divide.
>
> Dave Burstein.
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