[Chapter-delegates] ICANN and the ietf meeting in London March 2-7

Mon Feb 24 19:24:18 PST 2014

Hi Kris,

Indeed, i hope organizers of the IETF can consider this.

Best Regards
On Feb 24, 2014 11:56 PM, "Kris Seeburn" <kris_seeburn at orange.mu> wrote:

> Perhaps not a bad idea having an IETF meeting in Africa. I totally agree a
> slight bit of change may just be good. Perhaps one idea to ponder on is
> looking at a joint ICANN, AFRINIC, ISOC, IETF meeting at one of the AIS
> meetings. Just an idea to try and make it just right at that time.
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Is there a possibility of hosting the IETF in Africa? It would really help
> in onboarding more Africans, we can look for local hosts.
>
> Best Regards
> On Feb 21, 2014 10:27 PM, "Steve Crocker" <steve at shinkuro.com> wrote:
>
>> To clarity a bit more what ICANN's role is with respect to the upcoming
>> IETF meeting in London, here's a bit of background and some data points.
>> First, some basic background on the IETF's finances:
>>
>> IETF meetings are arranged by the IETF's meetings team that is part of
>> the IETF Secretariat.  The finances and contractual matters are handled
>> within the Internet Society on behalf of the IETF.  See RFC 4071,
>> http://www.ietf.org/secretariat.html and other information about the
>> IETF Administrative Support Activity (IASA).  A recent view of the IETF's
>> budget is at http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/%172014-IETF-BUDGET.pdf .
>>  It shows an estimated total cost of meetings for 2014 of $1,934,000 for
>> three meetings.  (See line 7 under expenses.)  Line 2 under Revenues shows
>> $930,000 in meeting sponsorships for the year.
>> Sponsorship or hosting is a standard part of the financing for IETF
>> meetings.  Below is a list of both the upcoming meetings and several past
>> meetings showing the host/sponsor for each meeting.
>> ICANN's role for this meeting is the same as previous and future hosts
>> such as Cisco, Huawei, Ericsson, DENIC, EURid, et al.  Once a upon a time,
>> hosts for IETF meetings were always located in the city where the meeting
>> took place.  In recent times, that's sometimes the case but not always.  In
>> this case, ICANN is a non-local host.
>>
>> ICANN has definitely *not* taken the role ISOC has.  We are in the role
>> of host/sponsor, which means we're providing some financial support.  We
>> have no role regarding the program or organization of the meeting except I
>> believe we are also responsible for the social event.
>>
>> My blog was aimed primarily at the folks in the ICANN community who are
>> less familiar with the IETF.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ====================================================================
>>
>> Upcoming meetings, based on information on
>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.html<http://www.ietf.org/meeting/89/index.html>
>> March 2014 - 89th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/89/index.html>
>>
>> March 2-7, 2014
>> Host: ICANN <http://www.icann.org/>
>> Location: London, England
>> Meeting Venue: Hilton London Metropole <http://www.hiltonlondonmet.com/>
>>
>>
>> July 2014 - 90th IETF
>>
>> July 20-25, 2014
>> Host: Ericsson
>> Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
>> Meeting Venue: Fairmont Royal York Hotel
>>
>> November 2014 - 91st IETF
>>
>> November 9-14, 2014
>> Host: Cisco
>> Location: Honolulu, HI, USA
>>
>> Meeting Venue: Hilton Hawaiian Village
>>
>> Past meetings, based on information on
>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/past.html
>> 88th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/88/index.html>
>>
>> November 3-8, 2013; Vancouver, BC, Canada; Sponsored by Huawei
>>
>> 87th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/index.html>
>>
>> July 28 - August 2, 2013; Berlin, Germany; Sponsored by DENIC, EURid,
>> Deutsche Telekom, Dyn and eco
>>
>> 86th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/86/index.html>
>>
>> March 10-15, 2013; Orlando, FL, USA; Hosted by Comcast and NBC Universal
>>
>> 85th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/index.html>
>> November 4-9, 2012; Atlanta, GA, USA; Hosted by North American Cable
>> Industry
>>
>> 84th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/84/index.html>
>> July 29 - August 3, 2012; Vancouver, BC, Canada; Hosted by Google
>>
>> 83rd IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/83/index.html>
>> March 25-30, 2012; Paris, France; Hosted by Cisco
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Steve Crocker's blog suggests that this a one-off event, with ICANN
>> sponsoring a meeting in the manner that a local host would. Given the major
>> meeting that ICANN will host in London in June, it likely has many of the
>> logistical issues already accommodated.
>>
>> This appears to be a goodwill gesture stemming from the recent
>> collaborations between ISOC, ICANN and others which have led to the
>> Montevideo Statement, the 1Net website, the Brazil governance meeting, and
>> perhaps beyond.
>>
>> There are many things of which ICANN may be legitimately accused, but
>> trying to overtake the ISOC role in the IETF is not one of them, IMO. ICANN
>> has enough if its own problems right now.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> - Evan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21 February 2014 13:04, Jan Flodin <jan.flodin at state.se> wrote:
>>
>>> Reading this
>>>
>>> http://blog.icann.org/2014/02/icanns-relationship-with-the-ietf/
>>>
>>> I am somewhat confused, so please, someone, enlighten me.
>>>
>>> AFAIK ISOC arranges ietf meetings around the world with support of local
>>> hosts.
>>>
>>> So, is ICANN local host? In London?
>>>
>>> Or, has ICANN taken the role ISOC use to have?
>>>
>>> Or...?
>>>
>>>
>>> Jan Flodin
>>> ISOC-SE
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