[Chapter-delegates] ICANN and the ietf meeting in London March 2-7

Mon Feb 24 12:56:34 PST 2014

Perhaps not a bad idea having an IETF meeting in Africa. I totally agree a slight bit of change may just be good. Perhaps one idea to ponder on is looking at a joint ICANN, AFRINIC, ISOC, IETF meeting at one of the AIS meetings. Just an idea to try and make it just right at that time.

On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> Is there a possibility of hosting the IETF in Africa? It would really help in onboarding more Africans, we can look for local hosts.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> On Feb 21, 2014 10:27 PM, "Steve Crocker" <steve at shinkuro.com> wrote:
> To clarity a bit more what ICANN's role is with respect to the upcoming IETF meeting in London, here's a bit of background and some data points.
> 
> First, some basic background on the IETF's finances:
> 
> IETF meetings are arranged by the IETF's meetings team that is part of the IETF Secretariat.  The finances and contractual matters are handled within the Internet Society on behalf of the IETF.  See RFC 4071, http://www.ietf.org/secretariat.html and other information about the IETF Administrative Support Activity (IASA).  A recent view of the IETF's budget is at http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/%172014-IETF-BUDGET.pdf .  It shows an estimated total cost of meetings for 2014 of $1,934,000 for three meetings.  (See line 7 under expenses.)  Line 2 under Revenues shows $930,000 in meeting sponsorships for the year.
> Sponsorship or hosting is a standard part of the financing for IETF meetings.  Below is a list of both the upcoming meetings and several past meetings showing the host/sponsor for each meeting.
> 
> ICANN's role for this meeting is the same as previous and future hosts such as Cisco, Huawei, Ericsson, DENIC, EURid, et al.  Once a upon a time, hosts for IETF meetings were always located in the city where the meeting took place.  In recent times, that's sometimes the case but not always.  In this case, ICANN is a non-local host.
> 
> ICANN has definitely not taken the role ISOC has.  We are in the role of host/sponsor, which means we're providing some financial support.  We have no role regarding the program or organization of the meeting except I believe we are also responsible for the social event.
> 
> My blog was aimed primarily at the folks in the ICANN community who are less familiar with the IETF.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve
> 
> ====================================================================
> 
> Upcoming meetings, based on information on http://www.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.html
> March 2014 - 89th IETF
> 
> March 2-7, 2014
> Host: ICANN
> Location: London, England
> Meeting Venue: Hilton London Metropole
> 
> 
> July 2014 - 90th IETF
> 
> July 20-25, 2014
> Host: Ericsson
> Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
> Meeting Venue: Fairmont Royal York Hotel
> 
> 
> 
> November 2014 - 91st IETF
> 
> November 9-14, 2014
> Host: Cisco
> Location: Honolulu, HI, USA
> 
> Meeting Venue: Hilton Hawaiian Village
> 
> Past meetings, based on information on http://www.ietf.org/meeting/past.html
> 
> 88th IETF
> 
> November 3-8, 2013; Vancouver, BC, Canada; Sponsored by Huawei
> 
> 87th IETF
> 
> July 28 - August 2, 2013; Berlin, Germany; Sponsored by DENIC, EURid, Deutsche Telekom, Dyn and eco
> 
> 
> 86th IETF
> 
> March 10-15, 2013; Orlando, FL, USA; Hosted by Comcast and NBC Universal
> 
> 85th IETF
> 
> November 4-9, 2012; Atlanta, GA, USA; Hosted by North American Cable Industry
> 
> 84th IETF
> July 29 - August 3, 2012; Vancouver, BC, Canada; Hosted by Google
> 
> 83rd IETF
> March 25-30, 2012; Paris, France; Hosted by Cisco
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Steve Crocker's blog suggests that this a one-off event, with ICANN sponsoring a meeting in the manner that a local host would. Given the major meeting that ICANN will host in London in June, it likely has many of the logistical issues already accommodated.
>> 
>> This appears to be a goodwill gesture stemming from the recent collaborations between ISOC, ICANN and others which have led to the Montevideo Statement, the 1Net website, the Brazil governance meeting, and perhaps beyond.
>> 
>> There are many things of which ICANN may be legitimately accused, but trying to overtake the ISOC role in the IETF is not one of them, IMO. ICANN has enough if its own problems right now.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> - Evan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 21 February 2014 13:04, Jan Flodin <jan.flodin at state.se> wrote:
>> Reading this
>> 
>> http://blog.icann.org/2014/02/icanns-relationship-with-the-ietf/
>> 
>> I am somewhat confused, so please, someone, enlighten me.
>> 
>> AFAIK ISOC arranges ietf meetings around the world with support of local
>> hosts.
>> 
>> So, is ICANN local host? In London?
>> 
>> Or, has ICANN taken the role ISOC use to have?
>> 
>> Or...?
>> 
>> 
>> Jan Flodin
>> ISOC-SE
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