[Chapter-delegates] ICANN and the ietf meeting in London March 2-7

Mon Feb 24 21:29:11 PST 2014

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On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Kris,
>
> Indeed, i hope organizers of the IETF can consider this.
>
> Best Regards
> On Feb 24, 2014 11:56 PM, "Kris Seeburn" <kris_seeburn at orange.mu> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps not a bad idea having an IETF meeting in Africa. I totally agree
>> a slight bit of change may just be good. Perhaps one idea to ponder on is
>> looking at a joint ICANN, AFRINIC, ISOC, IETF meeting at one of the AIS
>> meetings. Just an idea to try and make it just right at that time.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> Is there a possibility of hosting the IETF in Africa? It would really
>> help in onboarding more Africans, we can look for local hosts.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> On Feb 21, 2014 10:27 PM, "Steve Crocker" <steve at shinkuro.com> wrote:
>>
>>> To clarity a bit more what ICANN's role is with respect to the upcoming
>>> IETF meeting in London, here's a bit of background and some data points.
>>> First, some basic background on the IETF's finances:
>>>
>>> IETF meetings are arranged by the IETF's meetings team that is part of
>>> the IETF Secretariat.  The finances and contractual matters are handled
>>> within the Internet Society on behalf of the IETF.  See RFC 4071,
>>> http://www.ietf.org/secretariat.html and other information about the
>>> IETF Administrative Support Activity (IASA).  A recent view of the IETF's
>>> budget is at http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/%172014-IETF-BUDGET.pdf .
>>>  It shows an estimated total cost of meetings for 2014 of $1,934,000 for
>>> three meetings.  (See line 7 under expenses.)  Line 2 under Revenues shows
>>> $930,000 in meeting sponsorships for the year.
>>> Sponsorship or hosting is a standard part of the financing for IETF
>>> meetings.  Below is a list of both the upcoming meetings and several past
>>> meetings showing the host/sponsor for each meeting.
>>> ICANN's role for this meeting is the same as previous and future hosts
>>> such as Cisco, Huawei, Ericsson, DENIC, EURid, et al.  Once a upon a time,
>>> hosts for IETF meetings were always located in the city where the meeting
>>> took place.  In recent times, that's sometimes the case but not always.  In
>>> this case, ICANN is a non-local host.
>>>
>>> ICANN has definitely *not* taken the role ISOC has.  We are in the role
>>> of host/sponsor, which means we're providing some financial support.  We
>>> have no role regarding the program or organization of the meeting except I
>>> believe we are also responsible for the social event.
>>>
>>> My blog was aimed primarily at the folks in the ICANN community who are
>>> less familiar with the IETF.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ====================================================================
>>>
>>> Upcoming meetings, based on information on
>>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.html<http://www.ietf.org/meeting/89/index.html>
>>> March 2014 - 89th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/89/index.html>
>>>
>>> March 2-7, 2014
>>> Host: ICANN <http://www.icann.org/>
>>> Location: London, England
>>> Meeting Venue: Hilton London Metropole <http://www.hiltonlondonmet.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>> July 2014 - 90th IETF
>>>
>>> July 20-25, 2014
>>> Host: Ericsson
>>> Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
>>> Meeting Venue: Fairmont Royal York Hotel
>>>
>>> November 2014 - 91st IETF
>>>
>>> November 9-14, 2014
>>> Host: Cisco
>>> Location: Honolulu, HI, USA
>>>
>>> Meeting Venue: Hilton Hawaiian Village
>>>
>>> Past meetings, based on information on
>>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/past.html
>>> 88th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/88/index.html>
>>>
>>> November 3-8, 2013; Vancouver, BC, Canada; Sponsored by Huawei
>>>
>>> 87th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/index.html>
>>>
>>> July 28 - August 2, 2013; Berlin, Germany; Sponsored by DENIC, EURid,
>>> Deutsche Telekom, Dyn and eco
>>>
>>> 86th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/86/index.html>
>>>
>>> March 10-15, 2013; Orlando, FL, USA; Hosted by Comcast and NBC Universal
>>>
>>> 85th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/index.html>
>>> November 4-9, 2012; Atlanta, GA, USA; Hosted by North American Cable
>>> Industry
>>>
>>> 84th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/84/index.html>
>>> July 29 - August 3, 2012; Vancouver, BC, Canada; Hosted by Google
>>>
>>> 83rd IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/83/index.html>
>>> March 25-30, 2012; Paris, France; Hosted by Cisco
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Steve Crocker's blog suggests that this a one-off event, with ICANN
>>> sponsoring a meeting in the manner that a local host would. Given the major
>>> meeting that ICANN will host in London in June, it likely has many of the
>>> logistical issues already accommodated.
>>>
>>> This appears to be a goodwill gesture stemming from the recent
>>> collaborations between ISOC, ICANN and others which have led to the
>>> Montevideo Statement, the 1Net website, the Brazil governance meeting, and
>>> perhaps beyond.
>>>
>>> There are many things of which ICANN may be legitimately accused, but
>>> trying to overtake the ISOC role in the IETF is not one of them, IMO. ICANN
>>> has enough if its own problems right now.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> - Evan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21 February 2014 13:04, Jan Flodin <jan.flodin at state.se> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Reading this
>>>>
>>>> http://blog.icann.org/2014/02/icanns-relationship-with-the-ietf/
>>>>
>>>> I am somewhat confused, so please, someone, enlighten me.
>>>>
>>>> AFAIK ISOC arranges ietf meetings around the world with support of local
>>>> hosts.
>>>>
>>>> So, is ICANN local host? In London?
>>>>
>>>> Or, has ICANN taken the role ISOC use to have?
>>>>
>>>> Or...?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jan Flodin
>>>> ISOC-SE
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