[Chapter-delegates] ICANN and the ietf meeting in London March 2-7

[Barrack Otieno]

Dear Colleagues,

Is there a possibility of hosting the IETF in Africa? It would really help
in onboarding more Africans, we can look for local hosts.

Best Regards
On Feb 21, 2014 10:27 PM, "Steve Crocker" <steve at shinkuro.com> wrote:

> To clarity a bit more what ICANN's role is with respect to the upcoming
> IETF meeting in London, here's a bit of background and some data points.
> First, some basic background on the IETF's finances:
>
> IETF meetings are arranged by the IETF's meetings team that is part of the
> IETF Secretariat.  The finances and contractual matters are handled within
> the Internet Society on behalf of the IETF.  See RFC 4071,
> http://www.ietf.org/secretariat.html and other information about the IETF
> Administrative Support Activity (IASA).  A recent view of the IETF's budget
> is at http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/%172014-IETF-BUDGET.pdf .  It shows
> an estimated total cost of meetings for 2014 of $1,934,000 for three
> meetings.  (See line 7 under expenses.)  Line 2 under Revenues shows
> $930,000 in meeting sponsorships for the year.
> Sponsorship or hosting is a standard part of the financing for IETF
> meetings.  Below is a list of both the upcoming meetings and several past
> meetings showing the host/sponsor for each meeting.
> ICANN's role for this meeting is the same as previous and future hosts
> such as Cisco, Huawei, Ericsson, DENIC, EURid, et al.  Once a upon a time,
> hosts for IETF meetings were always located in the city where the meeting
> took place.  In recent times, that's sometimes the case but not always.  In
> this case, ICANN is a non-local host.
>
> ICANN has definitely *not* taken the role ISOC has.  We are in the role
> of host/sponsor, which means we're providing some financial support.  We
> have no role regarding the program or organization of the meeting except I
> believe we are also responsible for the social event.
>
> My blog was aimed primarily at the folks in the ICANN community who are
> less familiar with the IETF.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> ====================================================================
>
> Upcoming meetings, based on information on
> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.html<http://www.ietf.org/meeting/89/index.html>
> March 2014 - 89th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/89/index.html>
>
> March 2-7, 2014
> Host: ICANN <http://www.icann.org/>
> Location: London, England
> Meeting Venue: Hilton London Metropole <http://www.hiltonlondonmet.com/>
>
>
> July 2014 - 90th IETF
>
> July 20-25, 2014
> Host: Ericsson
> Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
> Meeting Venue: Fairmont Royal York Hotel
>
> November 2014 - 91st IETF
>
> November 9-14, 2014
> Host: Cisco
> Location: Honolulu, HI, USA
>
> Meeting Venue: Hilton Hawaiian Village
>
> Past meetings, based on information on
> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/past.html
> 88th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/88/index.html>
>
> November 3-8, 2013; Vancouver, BC, Canada; Sponsored by Huawei
>
> 87th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/index.html>
>
> July 28 - August 2, 2013; Berlin, Germany; Sponsored by DENIC, EURid,
> Deutsche Telekom, Dyn and eco
>
> 86th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/86/index.html>
>
> March 10-15, 2013; Orlando, FL, USA; Hosted by Comcast and NBC Universal
>
> 85th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/index.html>
> November 4-9, 2012; Atlanta, GA, USA; Hosted by North American Cable
> Industry
>
> 84th IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/84/index.html>
> July 29 - August 3, 2012; Vancouver, BC, Canada; Hosted by Google
>
> 83rd IETF <http://www.ietf.org/meeting/83/index.html>
> March 25-30, 2012; Paris, France; Hosted by Cisco
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Steve Crocker's blog suggests that this a one-off event, with ICANN
> sponsoring a meeting in the manner that a local host would. Given the major
> meeting that ICANN will host in London in June, it likely has many of the
> logistical issues already accommodated.
>
> This appears to be a goodwill gesture stemming from the recent
> collaborations between ISOC, ICANN and others which have led to the
> Montevideo Statement, the 1Net website, the Brazil governance meeting, and
> perhaps beyond.
>
> There are many things of which ICANN may be legitimately accused, but
> trying to overtake the ISOC role in the IETF is not one of them, IMO. ICANN
> has enough if its own problems right now.
>
> Cheers,
>
> - Evan
>
>
>
> On 21 February 2014 13:04, Jan Flodin <jan.flodin at state.se> wrote:
>
>> Reading this
>>
>> http://blog.icann.org/2014/02/icanns-relationship-with-the-ietf/
>>
>> I am somewhat confused, so please, someone, enlighten me.
>>
>> AFAIK ISOC arranges ietf meetings around the world with support of local
>> hosts.
>>
>> So, is ICANN local host? In London?
>>
>> Or, has ICANN taken the role ISOC use to have?
>>
>> Or...?
>>
>>
>> Jan Flodin
>> ISOC-SE
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