[Chapter-delegates] Chapter Advisory Council - creation of an Interim Steering Committee

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On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Charles Oloo <oloo6382 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Truly Alejandro
>
> The Chapter Advisory Council will definitely improve discourse between
> ISOC and Chapters. Not that there isn't dialogue, but the  Chapter Advisory
> Council will play an important role in progressively addressing core issues
> thus improving performance and operation of the chapters, including
> tackling intrinsic issues that Chapters could not relay directly to ISOC. I
> know there are many issues within Chapters that need to be addresses,
> judging from my own experience. Although ISOC and the Regional Bureaus have
> been active in this case, but there is need for improvement, with clearly
> defined mechanisms for resolving local bottlenecks. Some of these inherent
> issues may be directly affecting chapter's performance as well as expanding
> membership and volunteers.  In this case the design of bottom-up
> consultation should have clearly definitive ToR.
>
> Charles Oloo
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <
> apisan at unam.mx> wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  to agree with Chrisitian even more deeply: the Chapter Advisory Council
>> must be designed in such a way that it is not a very desirable job,
>> carrying much more responsibilities (like constant bottom-up consultation,
>> drafting of texts, bringing to the community tons of well-understood
>> information, etc.) and an obligation of service to the community.
>>
>>  Yours,
>>
>>  Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>>
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>> *Desde:* chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [
>> chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Charles Oloo [
>> oloo6382 at gmail.com]
>> *Enviado el:* martes, 15 de octubre de 2013 05:59
>> *Hasta:* John More
>> *CC:* ISOC Chapter Delegates
>> *Asunto:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] Chapter Advisory Council - creation of
>> an Interim Steering Committee
>>
>>    +1 John
>>
>>  Nicely put.
>>
>>  Charles
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:50 PM, John More <morej1 at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed.  Determining the role and scope lf the Council within the
>>> structure of the Internet Society (obviously also including a discussion
>>> and understanding of the role of the Chapters) is a pre-condition to
>>> designing the structure of the Council.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2013, at 5:28 AM, Christian de Larrinaga <cdel at firsthand.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Yes... Important to note that.
>>> >
>>> > The term is "Advisory" not political nor hierarchical, nor
>>> > representational nor any of the myriad ratholes such an activity can be
>>> > pushed down.
>>> >
>>> > Can this be structured as a "meeting" of chapters to develop and
>>> discuss
>>> > priorities and advise the ISOC board and possibly chapters as a whole?
>>> >
>>> > I wonder. Experience shows a strong preconception in this generation to
>>> > develop structure, elections, board, officers, business cards, status,
>>> > entitlement, then representational assumptions ....
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Christian
>>> >
>>> > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:
>>> >> Chris,
>>> >>
>>> >> glad to know you are interested as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> You may have missed this from a message of mine on October 1:
>>> >>
>>> >> "The *one* true innovation in the landscape is the possibility in the
>>> >> Bylaws to create a Chapter Advisory Council.
>>> >>
>>> >> Previous attempts have failed and I am among those who have had
>>> serious
>>> >> doubts about the concept. We should test it now. We know afresh much
>>> of
>>> >> what the Council should be able to do and what is out of its scope.
>>> >> Let's get on to it. I'm in if I can be considered useful."
>>> >>
>>> >> I think that before any of us puts his/her names up for roles we need
>>> to
>>> >> start doing some actual work. What in the present landscape can a
>>> >> Chapter Advisory Council do that improves the situation, what could
>>> >> actually go wrong with it?
>>> >>
>>> >> IMO a Chapter Advisory Council can bridge many gaps and make sure
>>> there
>>> >> is a persistent and consistent voice from the chapters. It must not
>>> try
>>> >> to take over from the chapters, however, nor become one more
>>> >> self-propelled power center or attempt to become one. IMO that is what
>>> >> killed a well-known previous regional model.
>>> >>
>>> >> Yours,
>>> >>
>>> >> Alejandro Pisanty
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> >>     Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
>>> >> Facultad de Química UNAM
>>> >> Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >>
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>>> >> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
>>> >> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
>>> >> Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
>>> >> http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
>>> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
>>> >> ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
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>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> *Desde:* chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
>>> >> [chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de CW Mail
>>> >> [mail at christopherwilkinson.eu]
>>> >> *Enviado el:* domingo, 13 de octubre de 2013 15:53
>>> >> *Hasta:* ISOC Chapter Delegates
>>> >> *Asunto:* [Chapter-delegates] Chapter Advisory Council - creation of
>>> an
>>> >> Interim Steering Committee
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Good Evening:
>>> >>
>>> >> /> The ISOC Board of Trustees … acknowledged the right of Chapters to
>>> >> form an advisory group/
>>> >>
>>> >> Further to the Note to Chapters that we have all received from Walda
>>> >> Roseman, I suggest that it is now down to the Chapters ourselves to
>>> >> initiate the organisation of at the Chapters Advisory Council.
>>> >>
>>> >> To this effect, I would be prepared to take on the röle of Convenor of
>>> >> an Interim Steering Committee for the creation of the Chapters
>>> Advisory
>>> >> Council. If that would be acceptable, I would be glad to see
>>> expressions
>>> >> of interest to participate in the Steering Group posted to the
>>> Chapters
>>> >> Delegates List. In the first instance, the Steering Group should
>>> >> comprise at least one recognised member from each of the principal
>>> >> geographical regions. The initial objective might be to work towards a
>>> >> first plenary meeting of the Council in mid-2014, for instance in
>>> London.
>>> >>
>>> >> With best regards to you all,
>>> >>
>>> >> Christopher Wilkinson
>>> >>
>>> >> PS:For those of you who do not know me, I initiated the discussion
>>> about
>>> >> Chapter membership of ISOC in 2010 (and have had a stake in that since
>>> >> then).
>>> >> I am reasonably multilingual EN/FR/ES; and at 72 I have no interest
>>> in a
>>> >> longer-term commitment.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 01 Oct 2013, at 21:21, Walda Roseman <roseman at isoc.org
>>> >> <mailto:roseman at isoc.org>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
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