[Chapter-delegates] Membership Database Maintenance

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I also agree with the need of to coordinate and to work with chapters on this matter. 

Carlos Vera
ISOC Ecuador

El 11/03/2013, a las 2:52, Jordi Iparraguirre <ipa at josoc.cat> escribió:

> Dear all,
> 
> I also agree and second the remarks made by Rudi, Dick and Borka.
> 
> Sure we do need an AMS DB maintenance, no discussion, we all support the initiative. We just have to take also into account chapter legal responsibilities regarding DB management and data privacy in order to fine tune the process.
> 
> kind rgds
> jordi
> 
> Al 10/03/13 13:04, En/na borka at e5.ijs.si ha escrit:
>> *1.
>> 
>> I fully agree with all Dick remarks. They should be considered
>> by the ISOC staff. ISOC Slovenia was set up in 1996 and in that time
>> the organization was set up according to the local law that has not
>> been changed much later. No changes can be made without endorsement
>> of the chapters. However, the action regarding the "cleaning" of
>> the membership is supported. I also believe that the chapter members
>> should not recieve all mails mailed by the ISOC staff and chapter
>> delegates, they will not be happy in receiveing too much mail.
>> 
>> With regards,
>> 
>> Borka Jerman-Blažič
>> ISOC Slovenia
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2013, Dick Kalkman wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear Rudy,
>>> 
>>> I second your remarks.
>>> 
>>> It can’t be stressed enough that the international ISOC organization has
>>> to comply to local laws. Especially because isoc.org is not only
>>> holding, but also mutating and using member databases & data.
>>> 
>>> Directly related to this legal problem is the sending of unsolicited
>>> mass email to chapter members by isoc.org. This without the endorsement
>>> of the respective chapters. Several members complained about this
>>> ‘spamming’ en we had even cancellation of membership.
>>> 
>>> I’m not surprised by the bouncing problems. There are several
>>> registrations. An example is the existence of so called international
>>> members. Interesting, but not for chapters and members who just want to
>>> have memberships. It's easy to understand that this gives administrative
>>> problems and overhead.
>>> 
>>> A bigger problem is that mutations to member records are also made by
>>> isoc staff. This also without the endorsement of the respective and/or
>>> involved chapters. Chapters are (always?) informed afterwards. This
>>> situation makes it very difficult for the chapters to keep the
>>> registrations up to date, comply to legislation and to do proper
>>> member-managemen