[Chapter-delegates] Update on By-Laws revision

Wed Jun 26 10:57:29 PDT 2013

Veni

Being a Chapter does not mean that you do not have separate existence.  It means you are affiliated and have certain rights and obligations. If there suddenly were no ISOC, each Chapter would be left to work out under their national laws how to proceed.  I note that an Chapter that loses its Chapter status still would exist as a legal entity under the laws it was organized under. It just could no longer present itself as a Chapter of the Society.

There may be special cases such as ISOC.AM. I would leave it to staff to work out what, if anything, needs to be stated in the local documentation, and how to operate where linkage to an outside NGO is impermissible.  It could be in a very few cases that having a Chapter in that country is unworkable. From what I have seen ISOC has been able to be fairly flexible.

John

I am not writing this as a member of the Bylaws Working Group or an insider on the history of ISOC and its Chapters.

On Jun 26, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com> wrote:

> +1.
> I don't think it is a wise thing to mention anywhere in the by-laws of national ISOC entities that they are chapters of ISOC.org. 
> If ISOC.org stops to exist tomorrow, all these national bodies will be in a limbo.
> 
> v.
> 
> 
> On 06/26/2013 13:50, Grigori Saghyan wrote:
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>> Dear All,
>> 
>> ISOC.AM currently is involved in local IGF organizational process, we
>> expect that in Armenian IGF there will be representatives from
>> government, NGOs and commercial structures. Based on the
>> mulch-stakeholder approaches, we expect, that there will be active
>> discussion between members, all materials we shall distribute widely.
>> Because it will be a  local, Armenian IGF, we need to have
>> representation of Armenian organizations. In this case we have to keep
>> our status only as a local NGO (ISOC.AM) with it's ByLaw, without
>> mentioning, that it is a ISOC Chapter.  We shall be unable to act as a
>> Chapter of a foreign organization, otherwise all our proposals will be
>> interpreted as a foreign influence, which will not help to conduct
>> ISOC principles.
>> 
>> I think the solution is  possible to find in  optimal organizational
>> structures for ISOC, based on the international experience. As an
>> example -  Red Cross or FIFA, where each local organization is a part
>> of one large association, but is fully independent from organizational
>> and formal  point of view.
>> 
>> Grigori Saghyan
>> ISOC.AM
>> 
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>> On 6/24/2013 4:19 PM, Ted Mooney wrote:
>>> To Individual members, Chapter Delegates and Advisory Council
>>> members,
>>> 
>>> After consideration of the legal  and strategic requirements of the
>>> Internet Society and serious analysis of the views offered by its
>>> members and Chapters,  the Board of Trustees (BoT) has asked the
>>> By-Laws Working Group to share the Board's recommended revisions
>>> with the community for a final review. The purpose of this review
>>> is to ensure that these changes are clear and understood before the
>>> Board votes on their adoption rather than to entertain at this time
>>> additional substantive changes.  These recommendations include a
>>> number of important updates.  Some notable ones are:
>>> 
>>> *             Board composition *             Acknowledgement of
>>> Chapters, their voting and other rights and responsibilities, *
>>> The ability of both Organization Members and Chapters to form
>>> advisory groups *             The establishment of a process for
>>> Chapters to review and appeal de-chartering decisions *
>>> Conformance with the laws governing its incorporation
>>> 
>>> We invite you to review the attached documents. The BLWG has
>>> prepared two documents for ease of review,  one which shows the
>>> full text and where there are revisions; the other is a call-out of
>>> key issues raised by the ISOC community.  These documents will be
>>> presented to the Trustees on July 8, 2013 for the Board's review
>>> and for iproposed adoption of the revised By-Laws at the July 22
>>> meeting of the Board of Trustees.
>>> 
>>> The attached final recommendations are the product of nearly two
>>> years of community consultations and careful consideration and
>>> debate by the Trustees.  The period for substantive comment closed
>>> in January of this year  and all comments were thoroughly reviewed
>>> by the Board . In this final community review, the BLWG is open to
>>> comments only regarding clarity of meaning and language.  We will
>>> reflect  key the views on clarification received by Wednesday, July
>>> 3 in our July 8 report to the BoT. The By-laws Working Group
>>> gratefully acknowledges the thoughtful consideration and
>>> willingness to engage from the Organization Members, Chapters and
>>> Individual Members. The Board of Trustees has taken community
>>> suggestions very seriously and Trustees have on many occasions
>>> expressed their appreciation for the valuable input they have
>>> received from ISOC Chapters and members. Once again, thank for
>>> taking time to review these documents for clarity.
>>> 
>>> With best regards,
>>> 
>>> The By-laws Working Group
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> Grigori Saghyan
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