[Chapter-delegates] ISOC position on NSA Spying

[Carlos A. Afonso]

However, there are specific EU-USA treaties and agreements authorizing 
data eavesdropping of Europeans which could be dropped, notwithstanding 
the fact that spying has happened, is happening and will continue to happen.

--c.a.

On 06/12/2013 12:50 AM, Elver Loho wrote:
> That comment by Viviane Reding is ridiculous. There is literally no law or directive or whatnot that the EU can pass within its current mandate that would affect the US ability to spy on us. The EU cannot even legislate the spy programs of its own member states: fundamental EU treaties make a specific exception for national security measures.
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> The legal aspect of this was analyzed in a 2001 European Parliament report, starting in chapter 7:
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> http://cryptome.org/echelon-ep-fin.htm
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> Best,
> Elver
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> On 12.06.2013, at 0:37, "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I agree with David. I also expect Europe to strongly move against these blatant violations. After all, Obama said that is is "only about foreigners" (!). Europeans are in, of course. This is a BBC report showing initial moves from the EU, involving Justice Commissioner Viviane Reding:
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>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22857062
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>> fraternal regards
>>
>> --c.a.
>>
>> On 06/11/2013 06:03 PM, David Solomonoff wrote:
>>> The revelations about the National Security Agency's surveillance
>>> apparatus, if true, are a stunning abuse of our basic rights to freedom
>>> and privacy.
>>>
>>> A coalition has formed to demand that the U.S. Congress reveal the full
>>> extent of the NSA's domestic spying programs. I'm personally joining the
>>> Electronic Frontier Foundation, Mozilla, Free Press, Fight for the
>>> Future, Access and many more consumer activist groups as part of that
>>> coalition.
>>>
>>> I believe that the Internet Society should sign their petition as well.
>>>
>>> http://www.stopwatching.us
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