[Chapter-delegates] Update on By-Laws revision

[Grigori Saghyan]

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Dear All,
I fully support 1 and 2 point. But for 3-rd point I have some doubts,
because if 1 and 2 point will be implemented, 3-rd point -  50:50 will
be not logical solution. If there are only Members, it will be
impossible to define "Chapter" as it was defined in old ByLaws.
Grigori Saghyan
ISOC.AM
On 7/7/2013 4:39 PM, CW Mail wrote:
> Dear Ted Mooney:
> 
> Thankyou for the three documents that have been distributed
> regarding the recommendations of the Bylaws working group.
> Recognising that there are some improvements proposed with respect
> to Chapters, may I limit my comments to the need for additional
> changes:
> 
> 1.
> 
> *Chapter Membership:* Comparing Articles III and IV, it becomes 
> clear that ISOC still does not accept Chapters as Members of the 
> Internet Society. The rights of Organisational Members and
> Chapters are still not symmetrical; e.g. there is no procedure for 
> withdrawing 'chartering' of an organisational member.
> 
> The construct whereby Individual Members are members but without 
> voting rights, whereas Chapters are NOT members, but do have
> voting rights, is bizarre to say the least.
> 
> Chapters have to be recognised as full members of the Internet
> Society.
> 
> 2.
> 
> *Constitution of Chapters: *As has already been pointed out, the 
> construct that Chapters are constituted only by pre-existing 
> individual members is historically incorrect and currently 
> politically inept.
> 
> Furthermore, in present circumstances, the ISOC concept that 
> individual members have to be registered in a central AMS database 
> is no longer sustainable. The primary database for individual 
> members will have to become the membership data of their
> respective Chapters, in their jurisdictions.
> 
> ISOC Reston would then have - the more manageable ? option of 
> maintaining a database of those individual members not affiliated
> to a Chapter.
> 
> 3.
> 
> *Composition of the Board of Trustees: *The proposed balance
> between the technical and business community on the one hand and
> the user community on the other hand, is not yet appropriate. I
> have proposed before, and maintain again, that a 50:50 relationship
> between Chapters and IETF+Organisational Members is necessary for
> the international credibility of the Internet Society.
> 
> In all other respects, may I thank the delegates to the Working
> Group, the work of the previous Board Bylaws Committee and the ISOC
> staff for their time, patience and expertise in this matter during
> recent years.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Christopher Wilkinson
> 
> 
> On 24 Jun 2013, at 14:19, Ted Mooney <mooney at isoc.org 
> <mailto:mooney at isoc.org>> wrote:
> 
>> To Individual members, Chapter Delegates and Advisory Council
>> members,
>> 
>> After consideration of the legal  and strategic requirements of
>> the Internet Society and serious analysis of the views offered by
>> its members and Chapters,  the Board of Trustees (BoT) has asked
>> the By-Laws Working Group to share the Board?s recommended
>> revisions with the community for a final review. The purpose of
>> this review is to ensure that these changes are clear and
>> understood before the Board votes on their adoption rather than
>> to entertain at this time additional substantive changes.  These
>> recommendations include a number of important updates.  Some
>> notable ones are:
>> 
>> ?             Board composition ?             Acknowledgement of
>> Chapters, their voting and other rights and responsibilities, ?
>> The ability of both Organization Members and Chapters to form
>> advisory groups ?             The establishment of a process for
>> Chapters to review and appeal de-chartering decisions ?
>> Conformance with the laws governing its incorporation
>> 
>> We invite you to review the attached documents. The BLWG has
>> prepared two documents for ease of review,  one which shows the
>> full text and where there are revisions; the other is a call-out
>> of key issues raised by the ISOC community.  These documents will
>> be presented to the Trustees on July 8, 2013 for the Board?s
>> review and for iproposed adoption of the revised By-Laws at the
>> July 22 meeting of the Board of Trustees.
>> 
>> The attached final recommendations are the product of nearly two
>> years of community consultations and careful consideration and
>> debate by the Trustees.  The period for substantive comment
>> closed in January of this year  and all comments were thoroughly
>> reviewed by the Board . In this final community review, the BLWG
>> is open to comments only regarding clarity of meaning and
>> language.  We will reflect  key the views on clarification
>> /received by Wednesday, July 3/ in our July 8 report to the BoT. 
>> The By-laws Working Group gratefully acknowledges the thoughtful 
>> consideration and willingness to engage from the Organization
>> Members, Chapters and Individual Members. The Board of Trustees
>> has taken community suggestions very seriously and Trustees have
>> on many occasions expressed their appreciation for the valuable
>> input they have received from ISOC Chapters and members. Once
>> again, thank for taking time to review these documents for
>> clarity.
>> 
>> With best regards,
>> 
>> The By-laws Working Group <Annotated By Laws Final June 2013
>> [1].pdf><By-Law Final Updates - June 2013
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