[Chapter-delegates] Has ISOC signed the Declaration of Internet Freedom?

[khaled koubaa]

Veni
Can you give us more explanantion why you feel not so confortable with
the declaration ?
Khaled

2012/7/4 Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com>:
> Hopefully we'll hear from them.
> But the declaration as it is, I am not comfortable with it enough to sign it
> personally.
>
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2012, khaled koubaa wrote:
>>
>> I have seen Vint Cerf has signed it as person as well as Jonathan
>> Zittrain ( Board member ) as person
>> I am also doing it as person. I see this as part of a campaign on
>> ITU/WCIT issues
>> And honestly I agree with all the declaration so I can not see why
>> ISOC don't signed as it what ISOC mission and values outline here :
>> http://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/mission/values-and-principles
>>
>> 2012/7/3 Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan at unam.mx>:
>> > David, all,
>> >
>> > any more background?
>> >
>> > I see reasons to discuss these purported principles but none to jump
>> > into an
>> > unknown bandwagon without a good check on completeness, bias,
>> > alignment...
>> >
>> > Further, in other spaces, I've been critical of many "declarations of
>> > principles for the Internet", other than the core design principles and
>> > their evolution, as they superimpose agendas that the technology is not
>> > meant to deliver or fix, and may end up, in fact, creating new
>> > constraints.
>> >
>> > Plus what I think is the key question, "can you codify
>> > 'permanent-beta'"?
>> >
>> > Just a thought akin to looking at the pool before jumping...
>> >
>> > Yours,
>> >
>> > Alejandro Pisanty
>> >
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>> > Desde: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
>> > [chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de David
>> > Solomonoff
>> > [president at isoc-ny.org]
>> > Enviado el: martes, 03 de julio de 2012 11:57
>> > Hasta: Chapter Delegates
>> > Asunto: [Chapter-delegates] Has ISOC signed the Declaration of Internet
>> > Freedom?
>> >
>> > Did I miss ISOC on the list of organizational signers?
>> >
>> > Declaration
>> >
>> > We stand for a free and open Internet.
>> >
>> > We support transparent and participatory processes for making Internet
>> > policy and the establishment of five basic principles:
>> >
>> >     Expression: Don't censor the Internet.
>> >     Access: Promote universal access to fast and affordable networks.
>> >     Openness: Keep the Internet an open network where everyone is free
>> > to
>> > connect, communicate, write, read, watch, speak, listen, learn, create
>> > and
>> > innovate.
>> >     Innovation: Protect the freedom to innovate and create without
>> > permission. Don’t block new technologies, and don’t punish innovators
>> > for
>> > their users' actions.
>> >     Privacy: Protect privacy and defend everyone’s ability to control
>> > how
>> > their data and devices are used.
>> >
>> > http://www.internetdeclaration.org/freedom (via shareaholic)
>> >
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> Best,
> Veni
>
> == Sent from my phone, so any spelling mistakes are caused by the
> touchscreen keyboard. That's a nice excuse, isn't it;-)