[Chapter-delegates] Global INET Update

[Marie-Anne Delahaut]

I second Veni's and other colleagues' analysis.
 
Really disappointed by ISOC selfish attitude, once more.
 
Marie-Anne
ISOC member since 1998, founder in 1998 and head of ISOC Belgium-Wallonia -
we have shared a lot energy, time and ideas for ISOC, without never
receiving any acknowledgment, recognition nor anything (not speaking of
money of course).
 
De : chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
[mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] De la part de Veni
Markovski
Envoyé : jeudi 26 janvier 2012 20:15
À : president at isoc-kh.org
Cc : chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
Objet : Re: [Chapter-delegates] Global INET Update
 
I don't understand the reaction from ISOC, seriously. 
There are no more than 10-20, let them be 50 chapter members, who might have
come to Geneva, if the conference was free. ISOC came back to the list with
another, shall I call it, offer? As if we are at an Orient market, and the
salesmen is trying to sell what we want to buy, but we all know that arguing
about the price is part of the culture. 
Well, I said that I refuse to be awarded as a VVIP (what does the second "v"
stands for - "Veni", or second "very"?) with a free pass, if that pass does
not go to the chapters' members, or at least chapters' members of the board.
I haven't spend 17 years of my life, dedicated to the ideas of ISOC, so that
in return I will be a VVIP, or something like that. 
I've respected the organization, I have fought for the organization - both
nationally and around the world, and I have tried to change it when I was on
the Board of Trustees. That's normal, and I would expect similar from the
other Trustees. Many of them were the Internet pioneers in their countries,
and they do not need the recognition of ISOC HQ that they are such. 

Hope that ISOC can reconsider yet again, and just forget the usual salesmen
discussion. We are not at the market, we are not trying to buy our
participation at a conference for cheaper. We just believe that since ISOC
is widely accepted as a respected organization, because of its members, and
because of its chapters, it has to be adequately addressing their needs, not
its own. And, on that point, it would be good to know how much the
conference costs, and why ISOC doesn't have money to pay for all of it, but
asks for participation fee. 
And even more interesting is to see who the speakers will be. If you don't
have them by now, I am worried that no good ones could show up at such a
short notice.

v.

On 1/26/2012 12:35, President ISOC-KH wrote: 
On 01/26/2012 08:06 PM, Eduardo Diaz wrote: 
Ted:
$150 might not seem like a lot of money to some but more than that is the
message that it's being sent by ISOC . I do not think it reflects "...the
greatest respect for our Chapters and the outstanding work you do...".
-ed

-ed, just to put this figure into perspective (not that I say the following
is "precise" but it gives some hints) what $150 means as the fee to
participate in Geneva as an ISOC member. - Even if somebody paid my ticket,
this is out for me (my salary, for may year, had nothing to do with my
passport nationality - my choice to work with Cambodian NGOs). And this mail
is not to blame any individual - it is just a plea that those who are in the
upper ten groups in the list down here should not forget the lower ten
groups when making general statements in the name of ISOC - "The internet is
for everyone."

Or just hide and change this slogan.


Norbert

=

Average monthly salary around the world

Fri Jul 16, 2010

Ever wonder what's the average salary in other countries? The list below
sort them out in US$...

Again the list is in US$, convert to your local currencies to get localized
quote.

2 Switzerland - Geneva / 4246.72
3 Norway - Oslo / 4077.44
4 Ireland - Dublin / 3849.28
5 USA - New York / 3680
6 Luxembourg - Luxembourg / 3610.08
8 UK - London / 3532.8
9 Denmark - Copenhagen / 3521.76
11 Finland - Helsinki / 3278.88
12 Japan - Tokyo / 3216.32
13 Germany - Frankfurt / 3146.4


60 China - Shanghai / 482.08
61 Colombia - Bogota / 478.4
62 Ukraine - Kiev / 426.88
63 Kenya - Nairobi / 408.48
64 Thailand - Bangkok / 401.12
66 Mexico - Mexico / 401.12
67 Bulgaria - Sofia / 375.36
68 India - Mumbai / 320.16
69 Indonesia - Jakarta / 301.76
70 Philippines - Manila / 287.04

Cambodia is, of course, not on the list – too low.




-- 
In April 2011, I started a new blog:

...thinking it over... after 21 years in Cambodia
http://www.thinking21.org/

continuing to share reports and comments from Cambodia.
This is my latest posting:

Council of Ministers Spokesperson Censured UN Special Expert (26.1.2012)
http://www.thinking21.org/?p=700

Norbert Klein
nhklein at gmx.net
Phnom Penh / Cambodia




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