[Chapter-delegates] Global INET Update

Thu Jan 26 11:15:22 PST 2012

I don't understand the reaction from ISOC, seriously.
There are no more than 10-20, let them be 50 chapter members, who might 
have come to Geneva, if the conference was free. ISOC came back to the 
list with another, shall I call it, offer? As if we are at an Orient 
market, and the salesmen is trying to sell what we want to buy, but we 
all know that arguing about the price is part of the culture.
Well, I said that I refuse to be awarded as a VVIP (what does the second 
"v" stands for - "Veni", or second "very"?) with a free pass, if that 
pass does not go to the chapters' members, or at least chapters' members 
of the board. I haven't spend 17 years of my life, dedicated to the 
ideas of ISOC, so that in return I will be a VVIP, or something like that.
I've respected the organization, I have fought for the organization - 
both nationally and around the world, and I have tried to change it when 
I was on the Board of Trustees. That's normal, and I would expect 
similar from the other Trustees. Many of them were the Internet pioneers 
in their countries, and they do not need the recognition of ISOC HQ that 
they are such.

Hope that ISOC can reconsider yet again, and just forget the usual 
salesmen discussion. We are not at the market, we are not trying to buy 
our participation at a conference for cheaper. We just believe that 
since ISOC is widely accepted as a respected organization, because of 
its members, and because of its chapters, it has to be adequately 
addressing their needs, not its own. And, on that point, it would be 
good to know how much the conference costs, and why ISOC doesn't have 
money to pay for all of it, but asks for participation fee.
And even more interesting is to see who the speakers will be. If you 
don't have them by now, I am worried that no good ones could show up at 
such a short notice.

v.

On 1/26/2012 12:35, President ISOC-KH wrote:
> On 01/26/2012 08:06 PM, Eduardo Diaz wrote:
>>
>> Ted:
>>
>> $150 might not seem like a lot of money to some but more than that is 
>> the message that it's being sent by ISOC . I do not think it reflects 
>> "/...//the greatest respect for our Chapters and the outstanding work 
>> you do.../".
>>
>> -ed
>>
>
> -ed, just to put this figure into perspective (not that I say the 
> following is "precise" but it gives some hints) what $150 means as the 
> fee to participate in Geneva as an ISOC member. - Even if somebody 
> paid my ticket, this is out for me (my salary, for may year, had 
> nothing to do with my passport nationality - my choice to work with 
> Cambodian NGOs). And this mail is not to blame any individual - it is 
> just a plea that those who are in the upper ten groups in the list 
> down here should not forget the lower ten groups when making general 
> statements in the name of ISOC - "The internet is for everyone."
>
> Or just hide and change this slogan.
>
>
> Norbert
>
> =
> *
> Average monthly salary around the world
> *
> Fri Jul 16, 2010
>
> Ever wonder what's the average salary in other countries? The list 
> below sort them out in US$...
>
> Again the list is in US$, convert to your local currencies to get 
> localized quote.
>
> 2 Switzerland - Geneva / 4246.72
> 3 Norway - Oslo / 4077.44
> 4 Ireland - Dublin / 3849.28
> 5 USA - New York / 3680
> 6 Luxembourg - Luxembourg / 3610.08
> 8 UK - London / 3532.8
> 9 Denmark - Copenhagen / 3521.76
> 11 Finland - Helsinki / 3278.88
> 12 Japan - Tokyo / 3216.32
> 13 Germany - Frankfurt / 3146.4
>
>
> 60 China - Shanghai / 482.08
> 61 Colombia - Bogota / 478.4
> 62 Ukraine - Kiev / 426.88
> 63 Kenya - Nairobi / 408.48
> 64 Thailand - Bangkok / 401.12
> 66 Mexico - Mexico / 401.12
> 67 Bulgaria - Sofia / 375.36
> 68 India - Mumbai / 320.16
> 69 Indonesia - Jakarta / 301.76
> 70 Philippines - Manila / 287.04
>
> Cambodia is, of course, not on the list -- too low.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> In April 2011, I started a new blog:
>
> ...thinking it over... after 21 years in Cambodia
> http://www.thinking21.org/
>
> continuing to share reports and comments from Cambodia.
> This is my latest posting:
>
> Council of Ministers Spokesperson Censured UN Special Expert (26.1.2012)
> http://www.thinking21.org/?p=700
>
> Norbert Klein
> nhklein at gmx.net
> Phnom Penh / Cambodia
>
>
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