[Chapter-delegates] Enforcing access "speed" on ISPs

[Tommi Karttaavi]

On 8.3.2011 17:44, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
> I wonder how much you Internet and government people in Finland have to
> spend an effort in denying that "the Internet is a fundamental right in
> Finland" and providing the precise statements you give us here. It still
> is admirable.

It's a misconception nobody here seems to spend too much energy refuting ;)

Tommi

> On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Tommi Karttaavi wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:36:22 +0200
>> From: Tommi Karttaavi <tommi.karttaavi at isoc.fi>
>> To: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>> Cc: "hallitus at isoc.fi" <hallitus at isoc.fi>
>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Enforcing access "speed" on ISPs
>>
>> Dear Marcin, all,
>>
>> I guess the "similar scheme in Finland" refers to the section about
>> the universal service obligation, under the Communications Market Act
>> (393/2003).
>>
>> Section 67f/2: "Provisions on the minimum rate of a functional
>> Internet access referred to above in subsection 2 are issued by a
>> decree of the Ministry of Transport and Communications. Prior to the
>> issuance of the decree, the Finnish Communications Regulatory
>> Authority shall examine the data transfer service markets, prevailing
>> access rates available to the majority of subscribers and level of
>> technological development, and estimate the financial impacts of the
>> regulation on telecommunications operators"
>>
>> The decree mentioned in the law has been in effect since Aug 1, 2010
>> and states that the minimum rate of a functional Internet access is 1
>> Mbit/s (downstream).
>>
>> The degree also says that the average minimum rate downstream is 750
>> kbits/s within a 24 hour period and 500 kbit/s within any 4 hour period.
>>
>> This is the same law that was in the news last year that was said to
>> make Internet connection a fundamental right in Finland.
>>
>> The law in English:
>> http://www.finlex.fi/en/laki/kaannokset/2003/en20030393.pdf
>>
>> The decree in Finnish:
>> http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/alkup/2009/20090732
>>
>> I'm copying this message to the Board of ISOC Finland in case someone
>> can give more information or wants to comment.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Tommi
>>
>> On 7.3.2011 1:45, Marcin Cieslak wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Polish Ministry of Infrastructure (which is sometimes dealing
>>> with telecommunications, independently of the telecom operator body)
>>> wants to implement some kind of tougher enforcement of the connection
>>> parameters of the Internet connection offered
>>> by the ISP.
>>>
>>> They plan to introduce a rule that the "minimal connection speed
>>> should not be lower than 90% of the contractual or advertized
>>> connection speed".
>>>
>>> This poses numerous problems, including things like, definition
>>> of "connection speed", from where to where it is measured,
>>> ignoring isses like latency or etc.
>>>
>>> On the other hand there is a general opinion that mobile
>>> operators usually overstate capabilities of their
>>> networks (HSDPA access "up to 7.2Mbit/s" and so on).
>>>
>>> There was one opinion expressed, that "similar scheme
>>> works in Finland".
>>>
>>> Does anyone know any attempts to regulate access speeds
>>> this way in Finland or somewhere else, what kind of metrics
>>> do they build on, and how does this look in practice?
>>>
>>> //Marcin
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