[Chapter-delegates] Enforcing access "speed" on ISPs

[Alejandro Pisanty]

Tommi,

thanks a lot for this valuable email (and to all others in this thread.)

I wonder how much you Internet and government people in Finland have to 
spend an effort in denying that "the Internet is a fundamental right in 
Finland" and providing the precise statements you give us here. It still 
is admirable.

Alejandro Pisanty


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On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Tommi Karttaavi wrote:

> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:36:22 +0200
> From: Tommi Karttaavi <tommi.karttaavi at isoc.fi>
> To: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> Cc: "hallitus at isoc.fi" <hallitus at isoc.fi>
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Enforcing access "speed" on ISPs
> 
> Dear Marcin, all,
>
> I guess the "similar scheme in Finland" refers to the section about the 
> universal service obligation, under the Communications Market Act (393/2003).
>
> Section 67f/2: "Provisions on the minimum rate of a functional Internet 
> access referred to above in subsection 2 are issued by a decree of the 
> Ministry of Transport and Communications. Prior to the issuance of the 
> decree, the Finnish Communications Regulatory Authority shall examine the 
> data transfer service markets, prevailing access rates available to the 
> majority of subscribers and level of technological development, and estimate 
> the financial impacts of the regulation on telecommunications operators"
>
> The decree mentioned in the law has been in effect since Aug 1, 2010 and 
> states that the minimum rate of a functional Internet access is 1 Mbit/s 
> (downstream).
>
> The degree also says that the average minimum rate downstream is 750 kbits/s 
> within a 24 hour period and 500 kbit/s within any 4 hour period.
>
> This is the same law that was in the news last year that was said to make 
> Internet connection a fundamental right in Finland.
>
> The law in English:
> http://www.finlex.fi/en/laki/kaannokset/2003/en20030393.pdf
>
> The decree in Finnish:
> http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/alkup/2009/20090732
>
> I'm copying this message to the Board of ISOC Finland in case someone can 
> give more information or wants to comment.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tommi
>
> On 7.3.2011 1:45, Marcin Cieslak wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Polish Ministry of Infrastructure (which is sometimes dealing
>> with telecommunications, independently of the telecom operator body)
>> wants to implement some kind of tougher enforcement of the connection
>> parameters of the Internet connection offered
>> by the ISP.
>> 
>> They plan to introduce a rule that the "minimal connection speed
>> should not be lower than 90% of the contractual or advertized
>> connection speed".
>> 
>> This poses numerous problems, including things like, definition
>> of "connection speed", from where to where it is measured,
>> ignoring isses like latency or etc.
>> 
>> On the other hand there is a general opinion that mobile
>> operators usually overstate capabilities of their
>> networks (HSDPA access "up to 7.2Mbit/s" and so on).
>> 
>> There was one opinion expressed, that "similar scheme
>> works in Finland".
>> 
>> Does anyone know any attempts to regulate access speeds
>> this way in Finland or somewhere else, what kind of metrics
>> do they build on, and how does this look in practice?
>> 
>> //Marcin
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