[Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF

Houle Louis Louis.Houle at oricom.ca
Sun Jul 17 17:16:25 PDT 2011 

D'accord with Anne's posting.
Improvment still to be considered.

Louis Houle
Président
La Société Internet du Québec (ISOC Québec)
Louis.Houle at isocquebec.org


Le 2011-07-15 10:31, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond a écrit :
> +1
> Wise decision.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> Le 15/07/2011 15:17, Anne Lord a écrit :
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> Many thanks to Franck (for spotting) and to everyone else who posted
>> comments to this list regarding the 'TYRANNY_ALERT' IETF video. While
>> we don't like the altered video, and we understand sentiments to want
>> it taken
>> down, ISOC continues to feel strongly that freedom of expression is
>> core to the principles that we espouse.
>>
>> As Alejandro and others point  out, the Internet Society as an
>> organisation must be careful to show respect for it's own core
>> principles as described at:
>> http://www.isoc.org/pubpolpillar/principles.shtml. Specifically we
>> uphold and defend "the ability to speak" as one of our core values.
>> As such, we believe strongly that no action should be taken by any of
>> us to ask for the video to be taken down.
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who contributed to the discussion.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Anne
>> ---
>>
>> On 12/07/2011, at 11:40 PM, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>>
>>> Hi friends,
>>>
>>> I've sent email on this matter to the Board of Trustees list, ergo
>>> also to Lynn and other top staff. The gist of it which I think I need
>>> to share with the Chapters list is as follows:
>>>
>>> "I'd wait at least the time it takes to breathe thrice before
>>> deciding what
>>> to do. The person who posted the video must have plenty of arguments
>>> - or
>>> will promptly be supplied with them - that the video is being repurposed
>>> for satyrical and opinion purposes and invoke some US Constitution First
>>> Amendment arguments.
>>>
>>> If that happens ISOC could find itself in a hot spot for violating
>>> its own
>>> proclaimed principles, plus overreacting, plus giving the video its time
>>> under the Sun by creating the news in the reaction. We could easily
>>> become
>>> the poster child for crisis mismanagement."
>>>
>>> I'm surprised a bit that Franck and Joly have asked for the takedown
>>> of the video. While I find it unpleasant and misguided I would hate
>>> to create a situation that turns a mild annoyance into a "United
>>> Airlines breaks guitars" case.
>>>
>>> What do others think?
>>>
>>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Joly MacFie wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:38:07 -0400
>>>> From: Joly MacFie<joly at punkcast.com>
>>>> To: Franck Martin<franck at avonsys.com>
>>>> Cc: Chapter Delegates<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
>>>> YouTube has an easy form -
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/copyright_complaint_form
>>>>
>>>> Mind you, I have fought off a few of these in my time. But I don't
>>>> think
>>>> there'll be much of an argument in this case.
>>>>
>>>> j
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Franck Martin<franck at avonsys.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> and a sample of all these take down notices:
>>>>> http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512c/notice.cgi?NoticeID=67714
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"Joly MacFie"<joly at punkcast.com>
>>>>> *To: *"Franck Martin"<franck at avonsys.com>
>>>>> *Cc: *"Chapter Delegates"<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>,
>>>>> "Anne Lord"
>>>>> <lord at isoc.org>, "Greg Wood"<wood at isoc.org>
>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, 12 July, 2011 2:08:15 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
>>>>>
>>>>> You have to laugh, eh? IETF, tool of the New World Order.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd imagine that a DMCA notice would have to come from Reston.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/t/dmca_policy
>>>>>
>>>>> j
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Franck Martin
>>>>> <franck at avonsys.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This link is way better:
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0anecPrsgog&NR=1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny this is what I was afraid people would be scared of...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyhow, Anne, time to write to youtube for a take down, violation of
>>>>>> copyright.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From: *"Joly MacFie"<joly at punkcast.com>
>>>>>> *To: *"Anne Lord"<lord at isoc.org>
>>>>>> *Cc: *"Chapter Delegates"<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, 12 July, 2011 2:00:13 PM
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funnily enough I just noticed this on the ietf site today. I
>>>>>> thought I
>>>>>> hadn't seen it before!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to d/l a HD version for use in our tv show?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW the ietf announcements list, for anyone (like myself until
>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>> today) who isn't on it, is at
>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce
>>>>>>
>>>>>> j
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Anne Lord<lord at isoc.org>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You may be interested in the short video below which describes
>>>>>>> the work
>>>>>>> of the  Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)  to newcomers and
>>>>>>> novices.
>>>>>>> The Internet Society is the organisational home for the IETF and the
>>>>>>> Internet Architecture Board (IAB).   The video is at :
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=tqc8vd_jPpg&feature=player_**embedded<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqc8vd_jPpg&feature=player_embedded>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   It is also linked from : http://www.ietf.org/support.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of the goals of the Internet Society is to broaden awareness
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> work of the IETF. Including this video in presentations about
>>>>>>> your Chapter
>>>>>>> in the context of the work and mission of the Internet Society
>>>>>>> could be a
>>>>>>> way to reach new members, in particular students and youth. For
>>>>>>> this type of
>>>>>>> audience, the video may also go well with the Next Generation
>>>>>>> Leaders
>>>>>>> presentation available for Chapters at: http://www.isoc.org/isoc/**
>>>>>>> chapters/guidelines/docs/ngl-**toolkit-template.ppt<http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/guidelines/docs/ngl-toolkit-template.ppt>(with
>>>>>>> speakers notes).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We hope this is useful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>> Anne Lord,<lord at isoc.org>
>>>>>>> Director of Chapters               http://www.isoc.org
>>>>>>> Internet Society     "The Internet is for everyone"
>>>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
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