[Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF

Fri Jul 15 07:35:34 PDT 2011

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On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Anne Lord <lord at isoc.org> wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Many thanks to Franck (for spotting) and to everyone else who posted
> comments to this list regarding the 'TYRANNY_ALERT' IETF video. While we
> don't like the altered video, and we understand sentiments to want it taken
> down, ISOC continues to feel strongly that freedom of expression is core to
> the principles that we espouse.
>
> As Alejandro and others point  out, the Internet Society as an organisation
> must be careful to show respect for it's own core principles as described
> at:  http://www.isoc.org/**pubpolpillar/principles.shtml<http://www.isoc.org/pubpolpillar/principles.shtml>.
> Specifically we uphold and defend "the ability to speak" as one of our core
> values.  As such, we believe strongly that no action should be taken by any
> of us to ask for the video to be taken down.
>
> Thank you to everyone who contributed to the discussion.
>
> Best wishes
> Anne
> ---
>
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> On 12/07/2011, at 11:40 PM, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>
>  Hi friends,
>>
>> I've sent email on this matter to the Board of Trustees list, ergo also to
>> Lynn and other top staff. The gist of it which I think I need to share with
>> the Chapters list is as follows:
>>
>> "I'd wait at least the time it takes to breathe thrice before deciding
>> what
>> to do. The person who posted the video must have plenty of arguments - or
>> will promptly be supplied with them - that the video is being repurposed
>> for satyrical and opinion purposes and invoke some US Constitution First
>> Amendment arguments.
>>
>> If that happens ISOC could find itself in a hot spot for violating its own
>> proclaimed principles, plus overreacting, plus giving the video its time
>> under the Sun by creating the news in the reaction. We could easily become
>> the poster child for crisis mismanagement."
>>
>> I'm surprised a bit that Franck and Joly have asked for the takedown of
>> the video. While I find it unpleasant and misguided I would hate to create a
>> situation that turns a mild annoyance into a "United Airlines breaks
>> guitars" case.
>>
>> What do others think?
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
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>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Joly MacFie wrote:
>>
>>  Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:38:07 -0400
>>> From: Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com>
>>> To: Franck Martin <franck at avonsys.com>
>>> Cc: Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.**isoc.org<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
>>> YouTube has an easy form - http://www.youtube.com/**
>>> copyright_complaint_form<http://www.youtube.com/copyright_complaint_form>
>>>
>>> Mind you, I have fought off a few of these in my time. But I don't think
>>> there'll be much of an argument in this case.
>>>
>>> j
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Franck Martin <franck at avonsys.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  and a sample of all these take down notices:
>>>> http://www.chillingeffects.**org/dmca512c/notice.cgi?**NoticeID=67714<http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512c/notice.cgi?NoticeID=67714>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Joly MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com>
>>>> *To: *"Franck Martin" <franck at avonsys.com>
>>>> *Cc: *"Chapter Delegates" <chapter-delegates at elists.**isoc.org<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>>,
>>>> "Anne Lord"
>>>> <lord at isoc.org>, "Greg Wood" <wood at isoc.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, 12 July, 2011 2:08:15 PM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
>>>>
>>>> You have to laugh, eh? IETF, tool of the New World Order.
>>>>
>>>> I'd imagine that a DMCA notice would have to come from Reston.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/t/dmca_**policy<http://www.youtube.com/t/dmca_policy>
>>>>
>>>> j
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Franck Martin <franck at avonsys.com
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  This link is way better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**
>>>>> v=0anecPrsgog&NR=1 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0anecPrsgog&NR=1>
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny this is what I was afraid people would be scared of...
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, Anne, time to write to youtube for a take down, violation of
>>>>> copyright.
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"Joly MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com>
>>>>> *To: *"Anne Lord" <lord at isoc.org>
>>>>> *Cc: *"Chapter Delegates" <chapter-delegates at elists.**isoc.org<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>>>> >
>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, 12 July, 2011 2:00:13 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Funnily enough I just noticed this on the ietf site today. I thought I
>>>>> hadn't seen it before!
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to d/l a HD version for use in our tv show?
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW the ietf announcements list, for anyone (like myself until earlier
>>>>> today) who isn't on it, is at
>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/ietf-announce<https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce>
>>>>>
>>>>> j
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Anne Lord <lord at isoc.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may be interested in the short video below which describes the
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> of the  Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)  to newcomers and
>>>>>> novices.
>>>>>> The Internet Society is the organisational home for the IETF and the
>>>>>> Internet Architecture Board (IAB).   The video is at :
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?****v=tqc8vd_jPpg&feature=player_**
>>>>>> **embedded<http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=tqc8vd_jPpg&feature=player_**embedded>
>>>>>> <http://www.youtube.**com/watch?v=tqc8vd_jPpg&**
>>>>>> feature=player_embedded<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqc8vd_jPpg&feature=player_embedded>
>>>>>> >.
>>>>>>  It is also linked from : http://www.ietf.org/support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the goals of the Internet Society is to broaden awareness of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> work of the IETF. Including this video in presentations about your
>>>>>> Chapter
>>>>>> in the context of the work and mission of the Internet Society could
>>>>>> be a
>>>>>> way to reach new members, in particular students and youth. For this
>>>>>> type of
>>>>>> audience, the video may also go well with the Next Generation Leaders
>>>>>> presentation available for Chapters at: http://www.isoc.org/isoc/**
>>>>>> chapters/guidelines/docs/ngl-****toolkit-template.ppt<http://**
>>>>>> www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/**guidelines/docs/ngl-toolkit-**
>>>>>> template.ppt<http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/guidelines/docs/ngl-toolkit-template.ppt>>(with
>>>>>> speakers notes).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We hope this is useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anne
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>>>>>> Anne Lord,                                 <lord at isoc.org>
>>>>>> Director of Chapters               http://www.isoc.org
>>>>>> Internet Society     "The Internet is for everyone"
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