[Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
ocl at gih.com
Fri Jul 15 07:31:07 PDT 2011
+1
Wise decision.
Kind regards,
Olivier
Le 15/07/2011 15:17, Anne Lord a écrit :
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Many thanks to Franck (for spotting) and to everyone else who posted
> comments to this list regarding the 'TYRANNY_ALERT' IETF video. While
> we don't like the altered video, and we understand sentiments to want
> it taken
> down, ISOC continues to feel strongly that freedom of expression is
> core to the principles that we espouse.
>
> As Alejandro and others point out, the Internet Society as an
> organisation must be careful to show respect for it's own core
> principles as described at:
> http://www.isoc.org/pubpolpillar/principles.shtml. Specifically we
> uphold and defend "the ability to speak" as one of our core values.
> As such, we believe strongly that no action should be taken by any of
> us to ask for the video to be taken down.
>
> Thank you to everyone who contributed to the discussion.
>
> Best wishes
> Anne
> ---
>
> On 12/07/2011, at 11:40 PM, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>
>> Hi friends,
>>
>> I've sent email on this matter to the Board of Trustees list, ergo
>> also to Lynn and other top staff. The gist of it which I think I need
>> to share with the Chapters list is as follows:
>>
>> "I'd wait at least the time it takes to breathe thrice before
>> deciding what
>> to do. The person who posted the video must have plenty of arguments
>> - or
>> will promptly be supplied with them - that the video is being repurposed
>> for satyrical and opinion purposes and invoke some US Constitution First
>> Amendment arguments.
>>
>> If that happens ISOC could find itself in a hot spot for violating
>> its own
>> proclaimed principles, plus overreacting, plus giving the video its time
>> under the Sun by creating the news in the reaction. We could easily
>> become
>> the poster child for crisis mismanagement."
>>
>> I'm surprised a bit that Franck and Joly have asked for the takedown
>> of the video. While I find it unpleasant and misguided I would hate
>> to create a situation that turns a mild annoyance into a "United
>> Airlines breaks guitars" case.
>>
>> What do others think?
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Joly MacFie wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:38:07 -0400
>>> From: Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com>
>>> To: Franck Martin <franck at avonsys.com>
>>> Cc: Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
>>> YouTube has an easy form -
>>> http://www.youtube.com/copyright_complaint_form
>>>
>>> Mind you, I have fought off a few of these in my time. But I don't
>>> think
>>> there'll be much of an argument in this case.
>>>
>>> j
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Franck Martin <franck at avonsys.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> and a sample of all these take down notices:
>>>> http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512c/notice.cgi?NoticeID=67714
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Joly MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com>
>>>> *To: *"Franck Martin" <franck at avonsys.com>
>>>> *Cc: *"Chapter Delegates" <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>,
>>>> "Anne Lord"
>>>> <lord at isoc.org>, "Greg Wood" <wood at isoc.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, 12 July, 2011 2:08:15 PM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
>>>>
>>>> You have to laugh, eh? IETF, tool of the New World Order.
>>>>
>>>> I'd imagine that a DMCA notice would have to come from Reston.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/t/dmca_policy
>>>>
>>>> j
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Franck Martin
>>>> <franck at avonsys.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This link is way better:
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0anecPrsgog&NR=1
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny this is what I was afraid people would be scared of...
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, Anne, time to write to youtube for a take down, violation of
>>>>> copyright.
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"Joly MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com>
>>>>> *To: *"Anne Lord" <lord at isoc.org>
>>>>> *Cc: *"Chapter Delegates" <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, 12 July, 2011 2:00:13 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Funnily enough I just noticed this on the ietf site today. I
>>>>> thought I
>>>>> hadn't seen it before!
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to d/l a HD version for use in our tv show?
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW the ietf announcements list, for anyone (like myself until
>>>>> earlier
>>>>> today) who isn't on it, is at
>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce
>>>>>
>>>>> j
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Anne Lord <lord at isoc.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may be interested in the short video below which describes
>>>>>> the work
>>>>>> of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) to newcomers and
>>>>>> novices.
>>>>>> The Internet Society is the organisational home for the IETF and the
>>>>>> Internet Architecture Board (IAB). The video is at :
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=tqc8vd_jPpg&feature=player_**embedded<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqc8vd_jPpg&feature=player_embedded>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is also linked from : http://www.ietf.org/support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the goals of the Internet Society is to broaden awareness
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> work of the IETF. Including this video in presentations about
>>>>>> your Chapter
>>>>>> in the context of the work and mission of the Internet Society
>>>>>> could be a
>>>>>> way to reach new members, in particular students and youth. For
>>>>>> this type of
>>>>>> audience, the video may also go well with the Next Generation
>>>>>> Leaders
>>>>>> presentation available for Chapters at: http://www.isoc.org/isoc/**
>>>>>> chapters/guidelines/docs/ngl-**toolkit-template.ppt<http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/guidelines/docs/ngl-toolkit-template.ppt>(with
>>>>>> speakers notes).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We hope this is useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>> Anne Lord, <lord at isoc.org>
>>>>>> Director of Chapters http://www.isoc.org
>>>>>> Internet Society "The Internet is for everyone"
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