[Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
Sivasubramanian M
isolatedn at gmail.com
Sat Jul 16 05:18:16 PDT 2011
Anne,
This position by ISOC is exemplary.
Sivasubramanian M
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Raul Echeberria <raul at lacnic.net> wrote:
> Agreed.
>
> Raul
>
>
>
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
> El 15/07/2011, a las 11:17, Anne Lord <lord at isoc.org> escribió:
>
> > Dear Colleagues,
> >
> > Many thanks to Franck (for spotting) and to everyone else who posted
> comments to this list regarding the 'TYRANNY_ALERT' IETF video. While we
> don't like the altered video, and we understand sentiments to want it taken
> > down, ISOC continues to feel strongly that freedom of expression is core
> to the principles that we espouse.
> >
> > As Alejandro and others point out, the Internet Society as an
> organisation must be careful to show respect for it's own core principles as
> described at: http://www.isoc.org/pubpolpillar/principles.shtml.
> Specifically we uphold and defend "the ability to speak" as one of our core
> values. As such, we believe strongly that no action should be taken by any
> of us to ask for the video to be taken down.
> >
> > Thank you to everyone who contributed to the discussion.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Anne
> > ---
> >
> > On 12/07/2011, at 11:40 PM, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
> >
> >> Hi friends,
> >>
> >> I've sent email on this matter to the Board of Trustees list, ergo also
> to Lynn and other top staff. The gist of it which I think I need to share
> with the Chapters list is as follows:
> >>
> >> "I'd wait at least the time it takes to breathe thrice before deciding
> what
> >> to do. The person who posted the video must have plenty of arguments -
> or
> >> will promptly be supplied with them - that the video is being repurposed
> >> for satyrical and opinion purposes and invoke some US Constitution First
> >> Amendment arguments.
> >>
> >> If that happens ISOC could find itself in a hot spot for violating its
> own
> >> proclaimed principles, plus overreacting, plus giving the video its time
> >> under the Sun by creating the news in the reaction. We could easily
> become
> >> the poster child for crisis mismanagement."
> >>
> >> I'm surprised a bit that Franck and Joly have asked for the takedown of
> the video. While I find it unpleasant and misguided I would hate to create a
> situation that turns a mild annoyance into a "United Airlines breaks
> guitars" case.
> >>
> >> What do others think?
> >>
> >> Alejandro Pisanty
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> .
> >> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> >> UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
> >>
> >> Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732
> >>
> >> * Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
> >> * LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
> >> * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
> >> * Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
> http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
> >>
> >> * Ven a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org
> >> *Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org
> >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> . .
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Joly MacFie wrote:
> >>
> >>> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:38:07 -0400
> >>> From: Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com>
> >>> To: Franck Martin <franck at avonsys.com>
> >>> Cc: Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
> >>> YouTube has an easy form -
> http://www.youtube.com/copyright_complaint_form
> >>>
> >>> Mind you, I have fought off a few of these in my time. But I don't
> think
> >>> there'll be much of an argument in this case.
> >>>
> >>> j
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Franck Martin <franck at avonsys.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> and a sample of all these take down notices:
> >>>> http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512c/notice.cgi?NoticeID=67714
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>> *From: *"Joly MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com>
> >>>> *To: *"Franck Martin" <franck at avonsys.com>
> >>>> *Cc: *"Chapter Delegates" <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, "Anne
> Lord"
> >>>> <lord at isoc.org>, "Greg Wood" <wood at isoc.org>
> >>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, 12 July, 2011 2:08:15 PM
> >>>>
> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
> >>>>
> >>>> You have to laugh, eh? IETF, tool of the New World Order.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd imagine that a DMCA notice would have to come from Reston.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/t/dmca_policy
> >>>>
> >>>> j
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Franck Martin <franck at avonsys.com
> >wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> This link is way better:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0anecPrsgog&NR=1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Funny this is what I was afraid people would be scared of...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyhow, Anne, time to write to youtube for a take down, violation of
> >>>>> copyright.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>> *From: *"Joly MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com>
> >>>>> *To: *"Anne Lord" <lord at isoc.org>
> >>>>> *Cc: *"Chapter Delegates" <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> >>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, 12 July, 2011 2:00:13 PM
> >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] Short video explaining the IETF
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Funnily enough I just noticed this on the ietf site today. I thought
> I
> >>>>> hadn't seen it before!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is it possible to d/l a HD version for use in our tv show?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BTW the ietf announcements list, for anyone (like myself until
> earlier
> >>>>> today) who isn't on it, is at
> >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce
> >>>>>
> >>>>> j
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Anne Lord <lord at isoc.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You may be interested in the short video below which describes the
> work
> >>>>>> of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) to newcomers and
> novices.
> >>>>>> The Internet Society is the organisational home for the IETF and the
> >>>>>> Internet Architecture Board (IAB). The video is at :
> >>>>>>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=tqc8vd_jPpg&feature=player_**embedded<
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqc8vd_jPpg&feature=player_embedded>.
> >>>>>> It is also linked from : http://www.ietf.org/support.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> One of the goals of the Internet Society is to broaden awareness of
> the
> >>>>>> work of the IETF. Including this video in presentations about your
> Chapter
> >>>>>> in the context of the work and mission of the Internet Society could
> be a
> >>>>>> way to reach new members, in particular students and youth. For this
> type of
> >>>>>> audience, the video may also go well with the Next Generation
> Leaders
> >>>>>> presentation available for Chapters at: http://www.isoc.org/isoc/**
> >>>>>> chapters/guidelines/docs/ngl-**toolkit-template.ppt<
> http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/guidelines/docs/ngl-toolkit-template.ppt>(with
> speakers notes).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We hope this is useful.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best wishes
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anne
> >>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> >>>>>> ---------
> >>>>>> Anne Lord, <lord at isoc.org>
> >>>>>> Director of Chapters http://www.isoc.org
> >>>>>> Internet Society "The Internet is for everyone"
> >>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> >>>>>> ---------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
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