[Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter

Khaled KOUBAA khaled.koubaa at gmail.com
Sat Jan 29 15:01:10 PST 2011


Hi,
I want to share with you this interview Tunisian Internet Agency CEO in 
Wired. Unbelievable 2 weeks ago :)
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/01/as-egypt-tightens-its-internet-grip-tunisia-seeks-to-open-up/
Khaled


Le 29/01/2011 23:16, Franck Martin a écrit :
> I see Internet rights as a stop gap for "democratic countries" to 
> avoid their executive to be tempted in the all security fallacy. The 
> onus is on Developed countries to set up the bar for themselves. It 
> needs to come from think tanks, like EFF, IGF, and ISOC, because 
> governments are not very receptive to such discourse at the moment.
>
> A new interesting debate in courts now, is about the role of the 
> anonymous group participants to be identified as cyber-manifestants 
> and not cyber-terrorists.
>
> Franck Martin
> http://www.avonsys.com/
> http://www.facebook.com/Avonsys
> twitter: FranckMartin <http://twitter.com/FranckMartin> Avonsys 
> <http://twitter.com/avonsys>
>
> Check your domain reputation: http://gurl.im/b69d4o
>
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> *From: *"Christian de Larrinaga" <cdel at firsthand.net>
> *To: *"Franck Martin" <franck at avonsys.com>
> *Cc: *chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org, patrick at vande-walle.eu
> *Sent: *Sunday, 30 January, 2011 1:42:41 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter
>
> Incidentally I don't want to ascribe the same motives to those 
> promoting disconnection polices in the US, UK and similar nations to 
> those in countries where political censorship is the motive.
>
> But I do think that the deep societal implications of disconnection 
> are not understood and the likelihood of crude implementation of such 
> policies will make things worse. Crude because we do not have the 
> policing, judicial and oversight institutions in place to manage these 
> things sensitively leading to inevitable collateral damage.
>
> On rights.
>
> Do you define and so tie up the Internet processes including IETF, W3C 
> with keeping innovation to what it is legally defined to be?
> Do you by making such a definition encourage service providers to 
> offer services that are outside that definition so as to avoid human 
> rights legislation?
>
> Can you provide a right of access to unfettered communications? 
>  (within a legal framework) when you don't have universal network 
> connectivity?
>
>
> Christian
>
>
> On 29 Jan 2011, at 13:15, Franck Martin wrote:
>
>     There used to be an initiative from the French and Dutch
>     government to make the Internet an fundamental Right in a
>     democracy... I spoke about it earlier...
>
>     Seems ISOC HQ was not interested at the time...
>
>     Franck Martin
>     http://www.avonsys.com/
>     http://www.facebook.com/Avonsys
>     twitter: FranckMartin <http://twitter.com/FranckMartin> Avonsys
>     <http://twitter.com/avonsys>
>
>     Check your domain reputation: http://gurl.im/b69d4o
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From: *"Christian de Larrinaga" <cdel at firsthand.net
>     <mailto:cdel at firsthand.net>>
>     *To: *"Franck Martin" <franck at avonsys.com <mailto:franck at avonsys.com>>
>     *Cc: *chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>     <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, patrick at vande-walle.eu
>     <mailto:patrick at vande-walle.eu>
>     *Sent: *Sunday, 30 January, 2011 1:09:05 AM
>     *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter
>
>     It is notable that the debate politically has moved since the
>     banking crisis from an open Internet to domain name seizure and
>     now physical and signalling disconnections and not just in Egypt,
>     but in UK, USA, Europe and so on.
>
>     The implications of damage to the economic, societal and political
>     life in and between countries if such a policy were to be
>     implemented are simply unfathomable. Perhaps the Egyptian
>     situation may give cause for pause. I hope so.
>
>     I see from the article that Lynn is in Davos. This gives an
>     opportunity to press the point that such policies are liable to
>     increase instabilities not just locally or regionally but in the
>     case of US, UK and other highly connected countries globally.
>     Egypt is not an example to follow. It is an important message.
>
>     Local disconnections imply global disconnections. It is a foreign
>     policy and world trade issue not simply one of internal security.
>
>
>     Christian
>
>     On 29 Jan 2011, at 12:39, Franck Martin wrote:
>
>         http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/01/how_governments_can_flip_the_i.html
>
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