[Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter
Khaled KOUBAA
khaled.koubaa at gmail.com
Sat Jan 29 15:01:10 PST 2011
Hi,
I want to share with you this interview Tunisian Internet Agency CEO in
Wired. Unbelievable 2 weeks ago :)
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/01/as-egypt-tightens-its-internet-grip-tunisia-seeks-to-open-up/
Khaled
Le 29/01/2011 23:16, Franck Martin a écrit :
> I see Internet rights as a stop gap for "democratic countries" to
> avoid their executive to be tempted in the all security fallacy. The
> onus is on Developed countries to set up the bar for themselves. It
> needs to come from think tanks, like EFF, IGF, and ISOC, because
> governments are not very receptive to such discourse at the moment.
>
> A new interesting debate in courts now, is about the role of the
> anonymous group participants to be identified as cyber-manifestants
> and not cyber-terrorists.
>
> Franck Martin
> http://www.avonsys.com/
> http://www.facebook.com/Avonsys
> twitter: FranckMartin <http://twitter.com/FranckMartin> Avonsys
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>
> Check your domain reputation: http://gurl.im/b69d4o
>
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> *From: *"Christian de Larrinaga" <cdel at firsthand.net>
> *To: *"Franck Martin" <franck at avonsys.com>
> *Cc: *chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org, patrick at vande-walle.eu
> *Sent: *Sunday, 30 January, 2011 1:42:41 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter
>
> Incidentally I don't want to ascribe the same motives to those
> promoting disconnection polices in the US, UK and similar nations to
> those in countries where political censorship is the motive.
>
> But I do think that the deep societal implications of disconnection
> are not understood and the likelihood of crude implementation of such
> policies will make things worse. Crude because we do not have the
> policing, judicial and oversight institutions in place to manage these
> things sensitively leading to inevitable collateral damage.
>
> On rights.
>
> Do you define and so tie up the Internet processes including IETF, W3C
> with keeping innovation to what it is legally defined to be?
> Do you by making such a definition encourage service providers to
> offer services that are outside that definition so as to avoid human
> rights legislation?
>
> Can you provide a right of access to unfettered communications?
> (within a legal framework) when you don't have universal network
> connectivity?
>
>
> Christian
>
>
> On 29 Jan 2011, at 13:15, Franck Martin wrote:
>
> There used to be an initiative from the French and Dutch
> government to make the Internet an fundamental Right in a
> democracy... I spoke about it earlier...
>
> Seems ISOC HQ was not interested at the time...
>
> Franck Martin
> http://www.avonsys.com/
> http://www.facebook.com/Avonsys
> twitter: FranckMartin <http://twitter.com/FranckMartin> Avonsys
> <http://twitter.com/avonsys>
>
> Check your domain reputation: http://gurl.im/b69d4o
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Christian de Larrinaga" <cdel at firsthand.net
> <mailto:cdel at firsthand.net>>
> *To: *"Franck Martin" <franck at avonsys.com <mailto:franck at avonsys.com>>
> *Cc: *chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, patrick at vande-walle.eu
> <mailto:patrick at vande-walle.eu>
> *Sent: *Sunday, 30 January, 2011 1:09:05 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter
>
> It is notable that the debate politically has moved since the
> banking crisis from an open Internet to domain name seizure and
> now physical and signalling disconnections and not just in Egypt,
> but in UK, USA, Europe and so on.
>
> The implications of damage to the economic, societal and political
> life in and between countries if such a policy were to be
> implemented are simply unfathomable. Perhaps the Egyptian
> situation may give cause for pause. I hope so.
>
> I see from the article that Lynn is in Davos. This gives an
> opportunity to press the point that such policies are liable to
> increase instabilities not just locally or regionally but in the
> case of US, UK and other highly connected countries globally.
> Egypt is not an example to follow. It is an important message.
>
> Local disconnections imply global disconnections. It is a foreign
> policy and world trade issue not simply one of internal security.
>
>
> Christian
>
> On 29 Jan 2011, at 12:39, Franck Martin wrote:
>
> http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/01/how_governments_can_flip_the_i.html
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