[Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter

[Franck Martin]

I see Internet rights as a stop gap for "democratic countries" to avoid their executive to be tempted in the all security fallacy. The onus is on Developed countries to set up the bar for themselves. It needs to come from think tanks, like EFF, IGF, and ISOC, because governments are not very receptive to such discourse at the moment. 

A new interesting debate in courts now, is about the role of the anonymous group participants to be identified as cyber-manifestants and not cyber-terrorists. 




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From: "Christian de Larrinaga" <cdel at firsthand.net> 
To: "Franck Martin" <franck at avonsys.com> 
Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org, patrick at vande-walle.eu 
Sent: Sunday, 30 January, 2011 1:42:41 AM 
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter 

Incidentally I don't want to ascribe the same motives to those promoting disconnection polices in the US, UK and similar nations to those in countries where political censorship is the motive. 


But I do think that the deep societal implications of disconnection are not understood and the likelihood of crude implementation of such policies will make things worse. Crude because we do not have the policing, judicial and oversight institutions in place to manage these things sensitively leading to inevitable collateral damage. 


On rights. 


Do you define and so tie up the Internet processes including IETF, W3C with keeping innovation to what it is legally defined to be? 
Do you by making such a definition encourage service providers to offer services that are outside that definition so as to avoid human rights legislation? 


Can you provide a right of access to unfettered communications? (within a legal framework) when you don't have universal network connectivity? 





Christian 






On 29 Jan 2011, at 13:15, Franck Martin wrote: 




There used to be an initiative from the French and Dutch government to make the Internet an fundamental Right in a democracy... I spoke about it earlier... 

Seems ISOC HQ was not interested at the time... 




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From: "Christian de Larrinaga" < cdel at firsthand.net > 
To: "Franck Martin" < franck at avonsys.com > 
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Sent: Sunday, 30 January, 2011 1:09:05 AM 
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter 


It is notable that the debate politically has moved since the banking crisis from an open Internet to domain name seizure and now physical and signalling disconnections and not just in Egypt, but in UK, USA, Europe and so on. 


The implications of damage to the economic, societal and political life in and between countries if such a policy were to be implemented are simply unfathomable. Perhaps the Egyptian situation may give cause for pause. I hope so. 


I see from the article that Lynn is in Davos. This gives an opportunity to press the point that such policies are liable to increase instabilities not just locally or regionally but in the case of US, UK and other highly connected countries globally. Egypt is not an example to follow. It is an important message. 


Local disconnections imply global disconnections. It is a foreign policy and world trade issue not simply one of internal security. 




Christian 



On 29 Jan 2011, at 12:39, Franck Martin wrote: 




http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/01/how_governments_can_flip_the_i.html 





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