[Chapter-delegates] INET meetings - Global INET 2011 and beyond
Anne Lord
lord at isoc.org
Sun Jun 1 18:14:32 PDT 2008
Hi all,
Just to note that there is now a Sphere group constituted for those
interested to discuss this subject further and work on a proposal.
The discussion has been moved to:
http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=INET+2011&bl
Please contact Veni if you wish to be added to the discussion mailing
list.
Thanks
Anne
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On 02/06/2008, at 9:32 AM, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
> Louis, all,
>
> don't forget that the BoT will need a clear projection of an
> audience for all this! (and, unfortunately, a money equation too,
> and both should be very solid cases.)
>
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> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008, Louis Houle wrote:
>
>> Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:46:17 -0400
>> From: Louis Houle <louis.houle at oricom.ca>
>> To: Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn at gmail.com>
>> Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] INET meetings - Global INET 2011
>> and beyond
>> Bonsoir Sivasubramanian
>>
>> Can't disagree with that !
>>
>> Before discussing that, my feeling is that we have to idscuss tue
>> idea
>> of creating an event that is both global and regional. Saying that,
>>
>> 1- What (shared) goal do we have in mind in setting an INET event
>> 2- What targets, objectives do we want to reach (down to the ground:
>> accessibility, NetNeutrality, high speed development, local barriers,
>> digitization of citizens, students, IPv6 availability ?)
>> 3- To reach our objectives, among the core topics, is there a need to
>> partner with an IETF, ICANN event. (A win-win approach, fundable and
>> less expensive for everybody)
>> 4- What geolocalized priorities (if any) should INET address: Africa-
>> what country ? Asia ?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Louis
>>
>>
>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy a écrit :
>>> Hello Louis Houfe,
>>>
>>> 1. The choice of the INET locations needs to be "decided" based on
>>> friendly bidding by chapters. Chapters could make a presentation bid
>>> to argue on the convenience of the location, the attractiveness
>>> of the
>>> venue, the capabilities etc. and delegates + ISOC global could
>>> evaluate and decide on a venue. If Quebec, PICISOC, New York and
>>> Australia ( chapter names are just thrown here) show equal interest
>>> INET 1 or INET 2, each of them need to upload a presentation ( along
>>> the lines of this example presentation on IGF 2008 prepared by the
>>> Government of India - this is not a bid document, but a similar
>>> document could be a bid for INET -
>>> http://www.intgovforum.org/feb26/IGF-Hyd-2008.v2.pdf - ( No
>>> marketing
>>> here either. This link is a public link from the IGF website. ISOC
>>> Chennai has so far not been involved in IGF ) .
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. There in no harm from including ICANN or IETF, but the event
>>> needs
>>> to be an ISOC event. ISOC needs to be the umbrella. We can go
>>> into the
>>> agenda later, that would need a larger debate.
>>>
>>> 3. We need to move away from the mindset of promoting ISOC to
>>> that of
>>> actually approaching this event from the position of responsibility.
>>> ISOC has enormous responsibilities towards the Internet and a
>>> serious
>>> conference such as INET is required for ISOC to contemplate and act
>>> upon all that needs to be done.
>>>
>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>> ISOC India Chennai.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Louis Houle <louis.houle at oricom.ca
>>> <mailto:louis.houle at oricom.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, there we go.
>>>
>>> 1- OK Siva, INET is a good idea but organizing the event in
>>> different
>>> geographic locations is a concern. Well, let's use
>>> technology, we're
>>> promoting the use of the Internet aren't we ? How about
>>> considering
>>> let's say an event in Québec City (no marketing here, it's
>>> for the
>>> sake
>>> of a simple example of what I have in mind).
>>> We can gather North Americans and anybody who gets near
>>> passing by at
>>> that time. And two years later, let's choose an other
>>> continent...as
>>> simple as that. On what grounds it should be choosed ?
>>> Discussion
>>> is open !
>>>
>>> 2- I like Fred's point on using or matching the INET with
>>> some other
>>> ISOC meetings (or ICANN-IETF,...) accordingly. The point is,
>>> as Fred
>>> mentions: what is the goal, the target, the objectives, the
>>> output
>>> ? It
>>> has to be grounded on sound topics around three aspects:
>>> a) what do we do to help high speed internet to propagate on
>>> this
>>> globe
>>> b) what do we do to encourage a fare use of the internet and to
>>> discourage abuses ?
>>> c) how do we deal with digital divide
>>>
>>> 3- Veni, it's a good point : INET is (partly) to replace the
>>> IGF who
>>> will comme to an end ! But to me, it is to help ISOC being
>>> the most
>>> relevant organization in the Internet governance discussions and
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> That's my two cents for tonight !
>>>
>>> Salutations,
>>> Louis
>>>
>>>
>>> Veni Markovski a écrit :
>>> > (topic changed)
>>> > Hi.
>>> >
>>> > I'd encourage again to start thinking more strategically (which
>>> > doesn't mean we have to stop the discussion about possible
>>> smaller
>>> > meetings), and see if the Chapters can come with a proposal to
>>> > ISOC-Reston to start anual Global INET meetings, to replace
>>> the IGF.
>>> > We have to be ready by mid 2009 with our proposal to start
>>> these
>>> > meetings from 2011. The last IGF is 2010, but they can be
>>> continued
>>> > as long as they want (they = UN, mainly). So, if we want
>>> ISOC to
>>> > become the most relevant organization in the Internet
>>> governance
>>> > discussions, the best way to do so is to start thinking how
>>> to use
>>> > the .org money for something really big, and in the public
>>> interest.
>>> >
>>> > I'd like to poll the chapters for volunteers with whom we
>>> can form a
>>> > little mailing list, and discuss these issues there. I think
>>> no more
>>> > than 3-5 people would do the job to come to the chapters with a
>>> sound
>>> > proposal.
>>> >
>>> > Are there volunteers?
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Veni
>>> >
>>> > At 02:11 PM 5/19/2008 -0700, Fred Baker wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>> 2- An event that would gather IETF, ICANN, NGSO (you can
>>> add or
>>> >>> delete the one you like) and would cover broadly all
>>> topics of
>>> ISOC
>>> >>> concern.
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>> >
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