[Chapter-delegates] INET meetings - Global INET 2011 and beyond

Sun Jun 1 16:32:58 PDT 2008

Louis, all,

don't forget that the BoT will need a clear projection of an audience for 
all this! (and, unfortunately, a money equation too, and both should be 
very solid cases.)

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On Sun, 1 Jun 2008, Louis Houle wrote:

> Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:46:17 -0400
> From: Louis Houle <louis.houle at oricom.ca>
> To: Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn at gmail.com>
> Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] INET meetings - Global INET 2011 and beyond
> 
> Bonsoir Sivasubramanian
>
> Can't disagree with that !
>
> Before discussing that, my feeling is that we have to idscuss tue idea
> of creating an event that is both global and regional. Saying that,
>
> 1- What (shared) goal do we have in mind in setting an INET event
> 2- What targets, objectives do we want to reach (down to the ground:
> accessibility, NetNeutrality, high speed development, local barriers,
> digitization of citizens, students, IPv6 availability ?)
> 3- To reach our objectives, among the core topics, is there a need to
> partner with an IETF, ICANN event. (A win-win approach, fundable and
> less expensive for everybody)
> 4- What geolocalized priorities (if any) should INET address: Africa-
> what country ? Asia ?
>
> Regards
>
> Louis
>
>
> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy a écrit :
>> Hello Louis Houfe,
>>
>> 1. The choice of the INET locations needs to be "decided" based on
>> friendly bidding by chapters. Chapters could make a presentation bid
>> to argue on the convenience of the location, the attractiveness of the
>> venue, the capabilities etc. and delegates + ISOC global could
>> evaluate and decide on a venue. If Quebec, PICISOC, New York and
>> Australia ( chapter names are just thrown here) show equal interest
>> INET 1 or INET 2, each of them need to upload a presentation ( along
>> the lines of this example presentation on IGF 2008 prepared by the
>> Government of India - this is not a bid document, but a similar
>> document could be a bid for INET -
>> http://www.intgovforum.org/feb26/IGF-Hyd-2008.v2.pdf  - ( No marketing
>> here either. This link is a public link from the IGF website. ISOC
>> Chennai has so far not been involved in IGF ) .
>>
>>
>> 2. There in no harm from including ICANN or IETF, but the event needs
>> to be an ISOC event. ISOC needs to be the umbrella. We can go into the
>> agenda later, that would need a larger debate.
>>
>> 3. We need to move away from the mindset of promoting ISOC to that of
>> actually approaching this event from the position of responsibility.
>> ISOC has enormous responsibilities towards the Internet and a serious
>> conference such as INET is required for ISOC to contemplate and act
>> upon all that needs to be done.
>>
>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>> ISOC India Chennai.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Louis Houle <louis.houle at oricom.ca
>> <mailto:louis.houle at oricom.ca>> wrote:
>>
>>     Well, there we go.
>>
>>     1- OK Siva, INET is a good idea but organizing the event in different
>>     geographic locations is a concern. Well, let's use technology, we're
>>     promoting the use of the Internet aren't we ? How about considering
>>     let's say an event in Québec City (no marketing here, it's for the
>>     sake
>>     of a simple example of what I have in mind).
>>     We can gather North Americans and anybody who gets near passing by at
>>     that time. And two years later, let's choose an other continent...as
>>     simple as that. On what grounds it should be choosed ? Discussion
>>     is open !
>>
>>     2- I like Fred's point on using or matching the INET with some other
>>     ISOC meetings (or ICANN-IETF,...)  accordingly. The point is, as Fred
>>     mentions: what is the goal, the target, the objectives, the output
>>     ? It
>>     has to be grounded on sound topics around three aspects:
>>     a) what do we do to help high speed internet to propagate on this
>>     globe
>>     b) what do we do to encourage a fare use of the internet and to
>>     discourage abuses ?
>>     c) how do we deal with digital divide
>>
>>     3- Veni, it's a good point : INET is (partly) to replace the IGF who
>>     will comme to an end ! But to me, it is to help ISOC being the most
>>     relevant organization in the Internet governance discussions and
>>     issues.
>>
>>     That's my two cents for tonight !
>>
>>     Salutations,
>>     Louis
>>
>>
>>     Veni Markovski a écrit :
>>    > (topic changed)
>>    > Hi.
>>    >
>>    > I'd encourage again to start thinking more strategically (which
>>    > doesn't mean we have to stop the discussion about possible smaller
>>    > meetings), and see if the Chapters can come with a proposal to
>>    > ISOC-Reston to start anual Global INET meetings, to replace the IGF.
>>    > We have to be ready by mid 2009 with our proposal to start these
>>    > meetings from 2011. The last IGF is 2010, but they can be continued
>>    > as long as they want (they = UN, mainly). So, if we want ISOC to
>>    > become the most relevant organization in the Internet governance
>>    > discussions, the best way to do so is to start thinking how to use
>>    > the .org money for something really big, and in the public interest.
>>    >
>>    > I'd like to poll the chapters for volunteers with whom we can form a
>>    > little mailing list, and discuss these issues there. I think no more
>>    > than 3-5 people would do the job to come to the chapters with a
>>     sound
>>    > proposal.
>>    >
>>    > Are there volunteers?
>>    >
>>    > Best,
>>    > Veni
>>    >
>>    > At 02:11 PM 5/19/2008  -0700, Fred Baker wrote:
>>    >
>>    >>> 2- An event that would gather IETF, ICANN, NGSO (you can add or
>>    >>> delete the one you like) and would cover broadly all topics of
>>     ISOC
>>    >>> concern.
>>    >>>
>>    >
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