[Chapter-delegates] PILOT sub-domain delegation service

Mon Apr 30 06:01:02 PDT 2007

I am so pleased to see this initiatives like this moving forward at ISOC.
Congratulations to Anne Lord.  I agree with Patrick re format.
Flexibility needed.  Requiring 3 or 2 character names will get us into
trouble.

Many countries have anomolies that will cause problems with a rigorous name
organization.
I suggest the format,

<country>.isoc.org  -  for a country-wide chapter.
and
<reasonable local name>.<country>.isoc.org  -  for a city or area within a
country.

My reasoning.  Permit me to look at from USA point of view.

chicago.isoc.org makes sense to me because I know of no country or area
"Chicago".
nyc.isoc.org makes sense to me for the same reason.
rome.isoc.org - is that Rome IT or Rome US?
de.isoc.org -  is that Denmark or Denver USA?
se.isoc.org - is that Sweden or Southeast US Chapter?

Consider our local Washington DC chapter, which can serve as an example of
problems that might be caused in any naming system.

dc.isoc.org makes sense  -- the District of Columbia, USA.
But perhaps most of the world's population would not readily think of "dc"
as
either "the center of the world" or "District of Columbia".

Some of our local chapter parochial members have wanted to name our chapter
"Tristate Chapter of ISOC" because we really cover (1) the state of
Virginia,
(2) the state of Maryland, and (3) the District of Columbia, a U.S. federal
area
not in any state.   (More info than you need , but illustrates the general
problem.)

So perhaps our chapter url within isoc.org should be:

tristate.isoc.org - that is absurd.
dcmdva.isoc.org - that will not make sense to anyone who is not local.

Another naming problem for a different reason.  If I remember, in years past
ISOC
headquarters often used <anything>.isoc.org for activities such as "
ietf20.isoc.org".

Let's make the best we can out of this and move forward quickly.

Gene Gaines
Sterling, Virginia USA

On 4/29/07, Rosa Delgado <rosa at delgado.aero> wrote:
>
> ++++++
>
> I support Partick's proposal.
>
> It would be also good to envisage aliases such as: gva.isoc.org -
> chapter with city names (3 letter-code) or  bg.isoc.org (2 letter-code)
> - chapter with country names. Those are ISO codes.
>
> regs/Rosa
>
> Luc Faubert wrote:
> > ++
> >
> >
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> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
> >> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf
> >> Of Franck Martin
> >> Sent: 29 avril 2007 07:20
> >> To: sebastien.bachollet at free.fr
> >> Cc: 'Chapter Delegates'; 'Patrick Vande Walle'; chapters at isoc.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] PILOT sub-domain delegation service
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Sébastien Bachollet wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Patrick and Anne,
> >>> Patrick takes my words out of my mouth.
> >>> We need a 3rd level for chapters not a fourth one.
> >>> All the best
> >>>
> >>> Isoc France
> >>> Sébastien Bachollet
> >>> sebastien.bachollet at free.fr
> >>> +33 6 07 66 89 33
> >>> www.egeni.org
> >>> www.isoc.fr
> >>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>> De : chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
> >>> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] De la part de
> >>> Patrick Vande Walle Envoyé : dimanche 29 avril 2007 11:53 À : Anne
> >>> Lord Cc : Chapter Delegates; chapters at isoc.org Objet : Re:
> >>> [Chapter-delegates] PILOT sub-domain delegation service
> >>>
> >>> Hi Anne,
> >>>
> >>> The original suggestion was : chaptername.isoc.org.
> >>> This is based on the current policy where we have for
> >>>
> >> england.isoc.org
> >>
> >>> or scotland.isoc.org, among others.
> >>>
> >>> Try "dig scotland.isoc.org ANY" or "dig england.isoc.org ANY"
> >>> for current examples.
> >>>
> >>> I see the proposed policy has now been changed to
> >>> chaptername.chapters.isoc.org.
> >>>
> >>> What was the rationale for this change ? To me, it looks more as a
> >>> willingess to make it clear in the DNS space that chapters
> >>>
> >> are not ISOC.
> >>
> >>> Further, how attractive do you think such a long domain
> >>>
> >> name can be ?
> >>
> >>> Hopefully, since this service is in pilot mode, it may still be
> >>> possible to revert to more a sensible policy.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>>
> >>> Patrick
> >>>
> >>> Anne Lord wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Dear Colleagues,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am pleased to announce that a new PILOT sub-domain delegation
> >>>> service is available to chapters. Details are available in
> >>>>
> >> a new area
> >>
> >>>> of the chapter pages of the ISOC website called 'Services' at:
> >>>>
> >>>>    http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/services.shtml
> >>>>
> >>>> This announcement has also been posted to the chapter news wiki.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please do not hesitate to contact <chapters at isoc.org> if
> >>>>
> >> you have any
> >>
> >>>> queries or questions about the service.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best wishes,
> >>>> Anne
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> --
> >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> >> Franck Martin
> >> franck at sopac.org
> >> "Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question"
> >> G. Bachelard
> >>
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