I am so pleased to see this initiatives like this moving forward at ISOC.<br>Congratulations to Anne Lord. I agree with Patrick re format.<br>Flexibility needed. Requiring 3 or 2 character names will get us into trouble.
<br><br>Many countries have anomolies that will cause problems with a rigorous name organization.<br>
I suggest the format,<br>
<br><span style="font-weight: bold;">
<country>.isoc.org </span> - for a country-wide chapter.<br>
and<br><span style="font-weight: bold;">
<reasonable local name>.<country>.isoc.org</span> - for a city or area within a country.<br><br>My reasoning. Permit me to look at from USA point of view.<br><br><a href="http://chicago.isoc.org">chicago.isoc.org
</a> makes sense to me because I know of no country or area "Chicago".<br><a href="http://nyc.isoc.org">nyc.isoc.org</a> makes sense to me for the same reason.<br><a href="http://rome.isoc.org">rome.isoc.org</a>
- is that Rome IT or Rome US?<br><a href="http://de.isoc.org">de.isoc.org</a> - is that Denmark or Denver USA?<br><a href="http://se.isoc.org">se.isoc.org</a> - is that Sweden or Southeast US Chapter?<br><br>Consider our local Washington DC chapter, which can serve as an example of
<br>problems that might be caused in any naming system.<br><br><a href="http://dc.isoc.org">dc.isoc.org</a> makes sense -- the District of Columbia, USA. <br>But perhaps most of the world's population would not readily think of "dc" as
<br>either "the center of the world" or "District of Columbia".<br><br>Some of our local chapter parochial members have wanted to name our chapter<br>"Tristate Chapter of ISOC" because we really cover (1) the state of Virginia,
<br>(2) the state of Maryland, and (3) the District of Columbia, a U.S. federal area <br>not in any state. (More info than you need , but illustrates the general problem.)<br><br>So perhaps our chapter url within <a href="http://isoc.org">
isoc.org</a> should be:<br><br><a href="http://tristate.isoc.org">tristate.isoc.org</a> - that is absurd.<br><a href="http://dcmdva.isoc.org">dcmdva.isoc.org</a> - that will not make sense to anyone who is not local.<br><br>
Another naming problem for a different reason. If I remember, in years past ISOC<br>headquarters often used <anything>.isoc.org for activities such as "<a href="http://ietf20.isoc.org">ietf20.isoc.org</a>".
<br><br>Let's make the best we can out of this and move forward quickly.<br><br>Gene Gaines<br>Sterling, Virginia USA<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/29/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Rosa Delgado
</b> <<a href="mailto:rosa@delgado.aero">rosa@delgado.aero</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">++++++<br>
<br>I support Partick's proposal.<br><br>It would be also good to envisage aliases such as: <a href="http://gva.isoc.org">gva.isoc.org</a> -<br>chapter with city names (3 letter-code) or <a href="http://bg.isoc.org">
bg.isoc.org</a> (2 letter-code)<br>- chapter with country names. Those are ISO codes.<br><br>regs/Rosa<br><br>Luc Faubert wrote:<br>> ++<br>><br>><br>> _________________________________________<br>> Luc Faubert
<br>> Conseiller en gouvernance TI et en gestion du changement /<br>> IT governance and change management consulting<br>> +1 514 236 5129<br>> <a href="http://www.LucFaubert.com">www.LucFaubert.com</a><br>>
<a href="http://www.isoc.qc.ca">www.isoc.qc.ca</a><br>> <a href="http://www.ccig.ca">www.ccig.ca</a><br>> <a href="http://www.maillons.qc.ca">www.maillons.qc.ca</a><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>> -----Original Message-----
<br>>> From: <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a><br>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org
</a>] On Behalf<br>>> Of Franck Martin<br>>> Sent: 29 avril 2007 07:20<br>>> To: <a href="mailto:sebastien.bachollet@free.fr">sebastien.bachollet@free.fr</a><br>>> Cc: 'Chapter Delegates'; 'Patrick Vande Walle';
<a href="mailto:chapters@isoc.org">chapters@isoc.org</a><br>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] PILOT sub-domain delegation service<br>>><br>>> +1<br>>><br>>> Sébastien Bachollet wrote:<br>>>
<br>>>> Hi Patrick and Anne,<br>>>> Patrick takes my words out of my mouth.<br>>>> We need a 3rd level for chapters not a fourth one.<br>>>> All the best<br>>>><br>>>> Isoc France
<br>>>> Sébastien Bachollet<br>>>> <a href="mailto:sebastien.bachollet@free.fr">sebastien.bachollet@free.fr</a><br>>>> +33 6 07 66 89 33<br>>>> <a href="http://www.egeni.org">www.egeni.org
</a><br>>>> <a href="http://www.isoc.fr">www.isoc.fr</a><br>>>> -----Message d'origine-----<br>>>> De : <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org
</a><br>>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>] De la part de<br>>>> Patrick Vande Walle Envoyé : dimanche 29 avril 2007 11:53 À : Anne
<br>>>> Lord Cc : Chapter Delegates; <a href="mailto:chapters@isoc.org">chapters@isoc.org</a> Objet : Re:<br>>>> [Chapter-delegates] PILOT sub-domain delegation service<br>>>><br>>>> Hi Anne,
<br>>>><br>>>> The original suggestion was : <a href="http://chaptername.isoc.org">chaptername.isoc.org</a>.<br>>>> This is based on the current policy where we have for<br>>>><br>>>
<a href="http://england.isoc.org">england.isoc.org</a><br>>><br>>>> or <a href="http://scotland.isoc.org">scotland.isoc.org</a>, among others.<br>>>><br>>>> Try "dig <a href="http://scotland.isoc.org">
scotland.isoc.org</a> ANY" or "dig <a href="http://england.isoc.org">england.isoc.org</a> ANY"<br>>>> for current examples.<br>>>><br>>>> I see the proposed policy has now been changed to
<br>>>> <a href="http://chaptername.chapters.isoc.org">chaptername.chapters.isoc.org</a>.<br>>>><br>>>> What was the rationale for this change ? To me, it looks more as a<br>>>> willingess to make it clear in the DNS space that chapters
<br>>>><br>>> are not ISOC.<br>>><br>>>> Further, how attractive do you think such a long domain<br>>>><br>>> name can be ?<br>>><br>>>> Hopefully, since this service is in pilot mode, it may still be
<br>>>> possible to revert to more a sensible policy.<br>>>><br>>>> Thank you,<br>>>><br>>>> Patrick<br>>>><br>>>> Anne Lord wrote:<br>>>><br>>>>
<br>>>>> Dear Colleagues,<br>>>>><br>>>>> I am pleased to announce that a new PILOT sub-domain delegation<br>>>>> service is available to chapters. Details are available in<br>
>>>><br>>> a new area<br>>><br>>>>> of the chapter pages of the ISOC website called 'Services' at:<br>>>>><br>>>>> <a href="http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/services.shtml">
http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/services.shtml</a><br>>>>><br>>>>> This announcement has also been posted to the chapter news wiki.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Please do not hesitate to contact <
<a href="mailto:chapters@isoc.org">chapters@isoc.org</a>> if<br>>>>><br>>> you have any<br>>><br>>>>> queries or questions about the service.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Best wishes,
<br>>>>> Anne<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>> --<br>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-<br>>> Franck Martin<br>>> <a href="mailto:franck@sopac.org">
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