[Chapter-delegates] ISOC-NY discusses at-large membership of ICANN

Sun Apr 1 15:21:55 PDT 2007

Raj,

I'd come back to this note of yours, upon which a rather complex thread 
has been building up.

You and your colleagues deserve all congratulation. You have built up a 
web of trust in your region  - a particular challenge, as is Africa, due 
to distances and bandwidths, and the diversity of culture. That you have 
decided to join the ICANN At-Largeeffort I also find valuable and 
heartening.

As many of you may know, we built this At-Large web-of-trust concept after 
the attempt at elections in ICANN whowed the many risks, mostly of capture 
from organizations with large resources at their disposal. The failure, 
colleagues, lies deep: in an eleticon like those we know (be they 
national, or for a society like ISOC) are based on the concept that there 
exists an electorate and candidates aim to gain part of the electorate's 
votes.

In the At-Large election of years ago, this was not the case; each 
candidate could bring the electors to register, then count votes. So guess 
what, the chances improve for those who can bring in real or 
well-simulated electors! Just like in my home country, Mexico, even 30 
years ago, the dominant party could haul in truckloads of manipulated 
peasants, have them vote in exchange for favors that only the government 
could grant, then get them drunk and sent back home. Of course other 
parties had no chance here! And in most of our countries, such 
manipulations of elections are not unknown. That's waht we replaced with 
the present system.

Now Danny, ISOC is aobut much more than the At-Large election for ICANN. 
The  relationship between the two organizations is built on sound 
premises, that are well validated in our context. And please, if you are 
going to make your reply with copy to many other lists outside this one, 
as has happened before, well, the novelty will be that you will be copying 
a public conversation instead of a private one!

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

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      Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
Director General de Servicios de Computo Academico
UNAM, Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico
Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
Tel. (+52-55) 5622-8541, 5622-8542 Fax 5622-8540
http://www.dgsca.unam.mx
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---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, www.isoc.org
  Participa en ICANN, www.icann.org
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Rajnesh D. Singh wrote:

> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:14:25 +1200
> From: Rajnesh D. Singh <rajnesh at patarapacific.com>
> To: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC-NY discusses at-large membership of
>     	ICANN
> 
> Yesterday during ICANN's Lisboa meeting, the management team for Asia Pacific RALO (APRALO) was announced, and for the
> record 3 ISOC Chapters are part of the team:
>
> Chair: 		Rajnesh Singh, PICISOC (Fiji)
> Vice-Chair:		Bilal Beiram, Arab Knowledge Management Society (Jordan)
> Secretariat:	Edmon Chung, ISOC-HK (Hong Kong)
> ALAC Rep 1:		Izumi Aizu, Internet Users Network (Japan)
> ALAC Rep 2:		Cheryl Langdon-Orr, ISOC-AU (Australia)
>
>
> I would also like to highlight that our colleagues from ISOC Taiwan are a strong and active part of APRALO.
>
>
> Regards,
> R.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of
> Alejandro Pisanty
> Sent: Friday, 23 March 2007 4:50 PM
> To: Tony Hill
> Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC-NY discusses at-large membership of ICANN
>
> Tony,
>
> so ISOC Mexico for Latin America, for a few months already now.
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
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>      Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> Director General de Servicios de Computo Academico UNAM, Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico Av. Universidad 3000,
> 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tel. (+52-55) 5622-8541, 5622-8542 Fax 5622-8540 http://www.dgsca.unam.mx
> *
> ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, www.isoc.org
>  Participa en ICANN, www.icann.org
> .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
>
>
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Tony Hill wrote:
>
>> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:05:43 +1100
>> From: Tony Hill <md at capitalconsulting.com.au>
>> To: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC-NY discusses at-large membership of
>>     	ICANN
>>
>> ISOC-AU is a registered ALC and we have just become part of the Asia
>> Pacific Regional At Large Organisation.
>>
>> Regards, Tony Hill
>> Internet Society of Australia
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
>> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of
>> WWWhatsup
>> Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2007 1:30 PM
>> To: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>> Subject: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC-NY discusses at-large membership of
>> ICANN
>>
>>
>> Recently Luc Flaubert of ISOC-Quebec has invited (North American) ISOC
>> chapters to consider joining the At-Large Constituency of ICANN (ALC).
>> This has elicited arguments anti and pro from ISOC-NY members.
>>
>> Danny Younger thinks that we should stick with our current membership
>> of the Non Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) .
>>
>> Veni Markovski thinks that the ALC, with it's accent on representing
>> the end-user, is a natural fit for ISOC chapters.
>>
>> Their comments can be viewed/listened to via the ISOC-NY wiki at
>> http://wwwhatsup.com/isoc-ny/ICANN_ALC
>>
>> Feedback/comments from other chapters is welcome - here or there.
>
>
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